82

I've seen a couple of sites that use wwws in their domain, for example: wwws.mint.com and wwws.whitehouse.gov. I'm sure it has something to do with an extra layer of security.

What does it mean and what is it used for? Why do only a handful of sites use it?

1
  • it's vince mcmahon's(founder of the WWF) attempt to take over the www while he was drunk and his tongue was burnt
    – barlop
    Feb 9, 2014 at 23:47

4 Answers 4

113

tl;dr;

The www and wwws prefixes don't affect the browser's choice of HTTP or HTTPS protocol.

A few organisations use wwws. to suggest that HTTPS is supported and arrange redirection so that users don't have to type the https:// protocol specifier.

Currently, few organisations think this is worthwhile. There is a trend to drop prefixes like www..


In (a little) more detail

What does [wwws] mean?

Nothing. It is only a convention.

The prefix www is non-functional, it has no effect on the protocol used. However I believe Tim Berners-Lee, the father of the World-Wide-Web, used it as a naming convention to indicate an HTTP server (i.e. a World Wide Web server). This helped to distinguish the server name from servers for other information-sharing protocols. E.g. some corporations had servers named ftp.example.com, www.example.com, mail.example.com (or maybe even gopher.example.com and wais.example.com). These prefixes were convenient for network administrators who wished to be able to locate these different services on separate servers. Nowadays other means of doing this have arisen. It is arguable the hostname prefixes were not convenient to end users. Most web browsers have tried to remove this burden from users by automatically adding http://www. and .com when the user enters single word attempts at a URL.

What is it used for?

To suggest that the server may support privacy of data in transit and certification of server identity.

A few people have taken to using wwws as a naming convention for HTTPS servers, i.e. servers that support HTTP over Secure-Sockets-Layer (SSL).

Since the name has no effect on protocols, you can run a HTTPS service on a server named example.com or foo.example.com or anything else.

The proponents of the wwws convention say that wwws is shorter and easier to type than https:// and they can therefore configure their servers to redirect a HTTP request for a wwws hostname to an HTTPS URL as a convenience for users who explicitly want to use HTTPS instead of HTTP but who find typing https:// too much of a chore.

There are other ways to provide links to a secure version of a site. Most business that need security (shops, banks) will automatically redirect users to HTTPS pages without requiring users to type a special prefix to the hostname.

Why do only a handful of sites use it?

Since it has no functional purpose, almost nobody finds it a useful convention. The trend is to drop these prefixes (e.g. look above: superuser.com instead of www.superuser.com).

Try visiting these URLs:

Then check which URL shows up in the address bar of your browser.

18
  • 4
    See also: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Wide_Web#WWW_prefix
    – slhck
    Nov 2, 2011 at 17:02
  • 2
    To add on, it is no different from sites that has URLs like secure.example.net, and it also explains the occasional appearances of www1.example.net/www2.example.net :)
    – Jin
    Nov 2, 2011 at 17:06
  • 14
    @iglvzx Please undelete it. You're new to the site, and you shouldn't be punished for being a few seconds late. That's not the point of Stack Exchange.
    – slhck
    Nov 2, 2011 at 17:17
  • 2
    @slhck Ok. Undeleted.
    – iglvzx
    Nov 2, 2011 at 17:20
  • 2
    The www1,www2,etc. was actually useful at one point. Netscape originally used that naming schema to implement crude load balancing for their web site in the early browsers. cse.iitk.ac.in/users/braman/courses/cs625-fall2003/lec-notes/… however, that was quickly overcome by other methods.
    – Chris Nava
    Nov 2, 2011 at 17:32
71

wwws and www are subdomains. They have no special meaning to a browser, other than the fact that they are part of a larger domain.

http://, ftp://, and https:// are examples of protocols, which do have special meaning and function.

0
12

First of all, we need to distinguish between a protocol and a domain name. http:// and https:// denote protocols. The latter indicates that traffic should be encrypted using SSL, but otherwise is still just http://. This is important for certain parts of a web site. Any time you sign in to a web site, for example, you really ought to see https:// as the protocol(really: schema) portion of the url. Even any request that might send back cookies should probably use this (hint: that's almost all web browsing you do).

On the other hand, www and wwws are just parts of a domain name. They have no bearing on security at all.

That out of the way, there is a relatively recent convention to provision the wwws name such that the base page redirects requests for http://wwws.example.com to https://www.example.com. The reason for this is convenience. Users will often type a name like www.example.com into their browser address bar. If they explicitly wanted the secure page, they would have to type https://www.example.com into the address bar. Many site administrators want to encourage (but not force) this choice to use the secure page, and so configuring wwws to work this way simply provides a shortcut to make finding the secure page that much easier.

However, this is still not that common, and even when it is there's nothing that forces a site with the wwws to be encrypted (https:// just plain won't work if the encryption isn't there. wwws still would.), and so you should still check that a wwws page has the expected protocol.

3
  • +1 for mentioning that you can use wwws for deliberately opening a secure connection without having to type https://
    – sme
    Nov 3, 2011 at 6:31
  • 1
    @sme - My point was that most of the time right now you can't do that... at least not very often right now. Nov 3, 2011 at 13:58
  • www is part of a hostname. It would be very rare for that to be a separate domain. (Some confusion arises because FQDN, fully-qualified domain name, is often used in conjunction with hostnames)
    – Ben Voigt
    May 6, 2012 at 4:54
4

http://no-www.org/index.php has some information about what the www prefix is and why its a little silly in this day and age.

1
  • 3
    He's not asking "what's www" but "what's wwws"
    – genesis
    Nov 5, 2011 at 12:42

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .