What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM? - Super User most recent 30 from superuser.com2010-03-17T07:48:33Zhttp://superuser.com/feeds/question/19362http://www.creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.5/rdfhttp://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram22What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?Feanorhttp://superuser.com/users/44342009-08-07T01:21:45Z2010-02-17T17:49:01Z
<p>I looked through here for a bit, but didn't see this question. I am questioning whether it is worth putting more than 4GB of RAM into my current desktop, and whether there are applications that will benefit tangibly from the increased RAM.</p>
<p>For a little more information about my situation, I am a computer science student and am working on increasingly large projects, using IDEs like Eclipse and Visual Studio as well as smaller ones like FreeRIDE. I'm starting to explore virtualization, Linux administration, etc., but only on my own network (one desktop and another laptop).</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19363#1936338Answer by prestomation for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?prestomationhttp://superuser.com/users/32302009-08-07T01:24:05Z2009-08-07T01:24:05Z<p>It's not really any single app using so much RAM, but the fact that you can run so many application simultaneously without paging the disk like crazy.</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19364#193644Answer by TheTXI for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?TheTXIhttp://superuser.com/users/7052009-08-07T01:26:13Z2010-02-17T17:49:01Z<p>If you have an application that is eating up all that ram, that is a separate issue.</p>
<p>Your benefits are in being able to run more applications simultaneously. If you are a programmer that means being able to run Visual Studio and other applications associated with development without having your computer slow to a crawl.</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19365#193654Answer by EvilChookie for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?EvilChookiehttp://superuser.com/users/25232009-08-07T01:28:43Z2009-08-07T01:28:43Z<p>Applications that are designed to run for long periods benefit from more RAM.</p>
<p>Common examples are Exchange and SQL server. Admittedly, these applications also will benefit from higher disk throughput, but RAM will also help immensely.</p>
<p>RAM is like internet bandwidth - while you don't necessarily see performance increase on a single task, you do see a a reduction in the slow down that occurs as a result of multi tasking. (Bandwidth doesn't necessarily make everything faster, but it does allow you to do more things using the same connection at a much higher rate than a slower connection.)</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19366#193660Answer by Jared Harley for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?Jared Harleyhttp://superuser.com/users/21822009-08-07T01:28:53Z2009-08-07T01:28:53Z<p>One of the benefits I've seen is being able to run a virtual machine and give it lots of headroom. That lets me run Visual Studios in a virtual machine and still listen to media player on the local machine without bogging everything down to a crawl.</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19368#193680Answer by Lance Roberts for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?Lance Robertshttp://superuser.com/users/23942009-08-07T01:32:28Z2009-08-07T01:32:28Z<p>Make sure your OS can use more than 4GB (needs to be 64-bit).</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19369#1936927Answer by The How-To Geek for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?The How-To Geekhttp://superuser.com/users/41022009-08-07T01:36:19Z2009-08-07T01:36:19Z<p>VMWare Workstation, VirtualBox...</p>
<p>And pretty much any type of virtualization solution. Massive, massive speed benefit from having loads and loads of RAM. I can run 2-3 VMs simultaneously on my desktop without any noticeable speed problems - quad core, 2.4ghz, 8GB RAM.</p>
<p>Also, RAM is cheap. Order more.</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19370#193707Answer by nik for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?nikhttp://superuser.com/users/2632009-08-07T01:37:01Z2009-08-07T02:05:38Z<p>The first thing you will probably need for using 4GB or more of RAM is a <a href="http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000811.html" rel="nofollow">shift to 64-bit OS</a>.</p>
<p>Beyond that,</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://vmtimes.com/2009/06/can-we-run-a-64-bit-operating-system-on-a-virtual-machine-running-on-an-x86-based-machine/" rel="nofollow">Virtual Machines</a>, <a href="http://blogs.technet.com/mdop/archive/2009/07/30/app-v-4-6-public-beta-now-available-for-download.aspx" rel="nofollow">Microsoft AppVirtualization</a> <a href="http://www.brianmadden.com/blogs/timmangan/archive/2009/08/03/microsoft-beta-for-app-v-64-bit.aspx" rel="nofollow">updates</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/andypennell/archive/2004/01/22/61943.aspx" rel="nofollow">Visual Studio</a>, <a href="http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2005/06/01/how-does-x64-measure-up.aspx" rel="nofollow">then</a> and <a href="http://stevenharman.net/blog/archive/2008/04/29/hacking-visual-studio-to-use-more-than-2gigabytes-of-memory.aspx" rel="nofollow">now</a> with <a href="http://jeffreypalermo.com/blog/running-development-from-a-ram-disk-ndash-options-and-products/" rel="nofollow">RAM Disks</a></li>
</ul>
<p>But, going towards more RAM and moving to 64-bit OS has its own constraints.<br />
A lot of the usual stuff is not yet quite stable (or even available in some cases) for 64-bit systems. </p>
<p><strong>Worthwhile question</strong> -- <a href="http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/memory-module-upgrade,2264.html" rel="nofollow"><strong>Do You Really Need More Than 6 GB Of RAM?</strong></a>, even <a href="http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=2354" rel="nofollow">4GB</a></p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19372#1937213Answer by Nick Josevski for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?Nick Josevskihttp://superuser.com/users/3502009-08-07T01:47:43Z2009-08-08T01:59:15Z<p>High end graphics/video manipulation even audio applications. Not to promote only Adobe, but here are 3 key application groups that benefit from larger quantities of ram:</p>
<ol>
<li>Graphics - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe%5FPhotoshop" rel="nofollow">Adobe Photoshop</a> </li>
<li>Video - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe%5FPremiere%5FPro" rel="nofollow">Adobe Premiere Pro</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final%5FCut%5FPro" rel="nofollow">Final Cut Pro</a> (Mac only), <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony%5FVegas" rel="nofollow">Sony Vegas Pro</a></li>
<li>Audio - <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe%5FSoundbooth" rel="nofollow">Adobe Soundbooth</a></li>
</ol>
<p>Try operating on raw video/audio files without a nice chunk of ram, and you'll see some really serious lag, often even the inability to load the files into the application.</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19373#193730Answer by kquinn for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?kquinnhttp://superuser.com/users/25702009-08-07T01:47:44Z2009-08-07T01:47:44Z<p>For a workstation doing software development, no, you won't need more than 4GB of RAM.</p>
<p>Huge amounts of RAM are most useful on servers -- the more RAM you have, the more cache you have, and the less often you have to hit disk. Since disk is tremendously slow, avoiding even a few disk accesses can provide tremendous performance gains in random I/O-heavy environments (like heavily loaded servers). The more, the merrier: 128GB of RAM is not at all uncommon on large database servers. HPC applications running on highly parallel machines also benefit from lots of RAM, but those also usually have lots of CPU cores too.</p>
<p>Most desktop-class applications that benefit from large amounts of RAM are 3D-related, for the exact same reason: if you're designing a complex part in SolidWorks or what-have-you, having all the relevant bits cached in RAM makes working with the model quick and easy. It's rare to see workstations above 16GB of memory, but it does happen.</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19374#1937415Answer by JP for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?JPhttp://superuser.com/users/12622009-08-07T01:48:08Z2009-08-07T01:48:08Z<p>Databases can eat up huge amounts of memory both RAM and on-disk.</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19375#1937512Answer by RCIX for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?RCIXhttp://superuser.com/users/21302009-08-07T01:48:08Z2009-08-07T01:48:08Z<p>Um, what about Photoshop, VMs, some large RTS games, etc.</p>
<p>Anything thats manipulating images, especially large ones, will benefit from more ram, as will games that require massive amounts of storage to hold data on units/the map/physics/etc. And of course the more RAM you can feed to a VM the smoother it will be.</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19472#194720Answer by Tadeusz A. Kadłubowski for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?Tadeusz A. Kadłubowskihttp://superuser.com/users/4132009-08-07T07:50:10Z2009-08-07T07:50:10Z<p>You study computer science. Some school programming projects will need lot of hardware power. I remember that I did several projects on the university that could eat all the RAM i could throw at them.</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/19865#198658Answer by dlamblin for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?dlamblinhttp://superuser.com/users/26502009-08-08T03:30:44Z2009-08-08T03:30:44Z<p>Server Applications:</p>
<ol>
<li>Web server with partial caching</li>
<li>A caching proxy</li>
<li>memCached</li>
<li>Relational databases</li>
<li>Indexed data, like lucene, or some kind of hash-table</li>
<li>virtualized servers</li>
</ol>
<p>Scientific Applications:</p>
<ol>
<li>MatLab et al.</li>
<li>custom (or not) machine learning</li>
<li>various things like protein folding.</li>
<li>more stuff I'm not qualified to actually list</li>
</ol>
<p>Media Applications:</p>
<ol>
<li>broadcast ready video stuff using uncompressed feeds</li>
<li>general video editiing, with scrubbing etc would benefit</li>
<li>graphic design. The less files you must close the more you can work on.</li>
<li>even music production can benefit, say you're working with 256 tracks and a lot of virtual instruments and effects patches, they all maintain state and buffers.</li>
</ol>
<p>Engineering Applications</p>
<ol>
<li>Basically any CAD</li>
<li>A lot of simulations that are updated to work with huge datasets.</li>
</ol>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/27656#276560Answer by TechZone for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?TechZonehttp://superuser.com/users/73922009-08-22T06:38:48Z2009-08-22T06:38:48Z<p>Agree with <strong>Lance Roberts</strong> your OS must support it, read this (do check out comments) if it doesn't - <strong><a href="http://www.megaleecher.net/RAMDisk" rel="nofollow">Making Use Of Non-Addressable Wasted RAM On 32 Bit Systems</a></strong>, hope this helps. </p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/28144#28144-1Answer by me for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?mehttp://superuser.com/users/77982009-08-23T08:10:32Z2009-08-23T08:10:32Z<p>32bits OS don't support more than 4GB of ram 64 bit of OS do</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/28163#281631Answer by Gabriel Hurley for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?Gabriel Hurleyhttp://superuser.com/users/24532009-08-23T09:28:45Z2009-08-23T09:28:45Z<p>Take an application that's 64-bit, running on a 64-bit OS, with hardware that can support 64-bit computing, and add some really gigantic data files. Then >4GB is a good thing.</p>
<p>Off the top of my head scientific computing (statistical analysis, biological modeling, physics simulations...) are some of the most common programs that regularly use over 4GB.</p>
<p>Will it benefit you? Probably not tremendously unless you just really like to have EVERY APP ON YOUR COMPUTER open at the same time... ;-)</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/28209#282090Answer by Jader Dias for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?Jader Diashttp://superuser.com/users/8282009-08-23T13:31:11Z2009-08-23T13:31:11Z<p>The browsers alone can consume lots of RAM, you just need to open many pages. 20 HD Flash videos will do.</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/28212#282120Answer by Phoshi for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?Phoshihttp://superuser.com/users/69982009-08-23T13:55:29Z2009-08-23T13:55:29Z<p>Crysis's Editor, Sandbox 2, benefits hugely. Any application that has to deal with an awful lot of information quickly will thank you.</p>
<p>Personally, I have 2GB of RAM, and almost never fill it. The only reason I'd get more would be to remove that "almost", and be safe in the knowledge my PC can take pretty much whatever I throw at it. (except a brick, my case isn't that hard)</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/35398#353980Answer by user9805 for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?user9805http://superuser.com/users/98052009-09-04T00:28:18Z2009-09-04T00:28:18Z<p>@me: 32 bits OS CAN make use of more than 3 or 4GB of RAM, using PAE (phisical address extension). This feature has been around since Pentium Pro, and allows to map up to 64GB, allowing each process a maximun of 4GB addressable memory space. Windows XP and Vista cripple this feature, due to driver incompatibilities. For more info, please read <a href="http://josearrarte.com/blog/2009/08/30/64gb-de-ram-en-un-sistema-operativo-de-32-bits/" rel="nofollow">http://josearrarte.com/blog/2009/08/30/64gb-de-ram-en-un-sistema-operativo-de-32-bits/</a> (in spanish).</p>
<p>Regards,
Jose</p>
http://superuser.com/questions/19362/what-applications-if-any-benefit-tangibly-from-more-than-4gb-of-ram/55562#555621Answer by Mihkel for What applications, if any, benefit tangibly from more than 4GB of RAM?Mihkelhttp://superuser.com/users/136032009-10-14T23:58:27Z2009-10-14T23:58:27Z<p>Software 3D render engines are one class of software that greatly benefit from a lot of ram. They usually come bundled with applications such as Maxon Cinema 4D, Autodesk Maya, Softimage XSI etc.</p>