When I was a kid I fell hard on my right wrist and since then I always get wrist pains when angling my wrist very high up (ie: when using a very high shaped mouse or doing push ups).

So I have narrowed down my choices for a keyboard to the following 2:

Microsoft Natural 4000:

Microsoft Natural 4000

And the Razer Arctosa:

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The Razer is a slim type keyboard similar to a laptop feel and the hand-rest would help with keeping my hands straight with respect to my forearms. I am more inclined on getting the razer but am not sure if this will benefit my wrists in the long run.

Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.

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Related question: superuser.com/questions/76236/… – heavyd Apr 28 '10 at 14:25
Which keyboard you prefer is really a matter of personal choice. However, objective opinion about ergonomics, depending on the shapes of these keyboards can be answered. Answers should remain objective, no "I like it, i hate it". – Gnoupi Apr 28 '10 at 14:30
Wouldn't someone with some knowledge of ergonomics be able to provide a "right" answer? – Absolute0 Apr 28 '10 at 14:35
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Unfortunately, no. Having tried numerous "ergonomic" devices, I can safely say that what's truly appropriate depends upon the user. – Michael Todd Apr 28 '10 at 14:39
It depends on what kind of work you do, what stress you're under, how well you can type, your overall position, how you spend your leisure time (behind a computer anyone). So like @Michael is saying: no, you can't. – Ivo Flipse Apr 28 '10 at 18:56
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Everyone is different, so it's not the sort of question that has a "right" answer. I have problems if the keyboard has any sort of tilt to it at all, so the thinner and flatter the better. Some people like the split keyboards, but for others (including myself) they're worse...They usually angle a little to the outside, and that bothers me a lot...Can't use a trackball either, for the same reason.

I recommend buying some inexpensive versions of each type and working with each for a while, to see which one causes you the least difficulty. I also recommend making sure the rest of your work environment is set up to minimize stress on your wrists...I used to work with a lady who bought a new keyboard every month in an effort to "fix" her carpal, when even the most cursory look at her desk would tell anyone that the problem was her hellish keyboard tray (which was at a 45 degree angle, and has this metal lip that she rested her wrists on...Made my wrists hurt just looking at it. Make sure you have plenty of room on your desk to rest your arms, and that your chair is high enough, etc.

Finally, I recommend getting some kind of hand exercise ball...not necessarily a squeeze type ball (I dislocated my right wrist when I was a kid and to this day that sort of exercise makes my carpal flare up) but something that's going to make you use your fingers in a manner different from typing. I use meditation balls...They don't cost very much, and they last forever.

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Any alternatives to the trackball? I currently own the marble trackball and its still doesnt help with the pains due to the raised hand curve shape. The kengsingtons are crap. I wish my machine could read my mind :) – Absolute0 Apr 28 '10 at 14:40
@Absolute0: I don't have any problems using a mouse, because I can keep my wrist straight, and move my elbow (though, ironically, I have a mild shoulder problem from using the mouse). With a trackball, you have to move your whole wrist to the left and right and that kills me...I end up with a full blown horrible carpal flareup in a matter of days. – Satanicpuppy Apr 28 '10 at 14:47
you could rest your wrist and just use your index finger. – Absolute0 Apr 28 '10 at 15:05
I have tried many keyboards over the years, and @satanicpuppy is dead on when he says to buy & try different one. The type of work you do, the size of your hands, workstation configuration - all of these mean that you really have to try it to know if it'll make a difference. For what it's worth, as someone who's had problems, a lot of the problems are mouse-related and now keyboard related - grabbing the mouse and moving it in order to locate the cursor in particular being something that will cause problems. That, and using emacs for 8 hours a day :) – chris Apr 28 '10 at 15:13
On a side note, any thumb trackball I've ever used is pretty comfortable (less wrist motion than a standard trackball). – Michael Todd Apr 28 '10 at 15:33
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I tried the Microsoft Natural 4000 and once I used it I couldn't go back. It's simply the most comfortable keyboard I've ever used.

MS 4000 beats the Logitech wave anyway, hands down - pardon the pun.

The reason the MS 4000 is so good is it actually curves "downhill" from your wrists to your fingers -- so it naturally causes your wrists to remain straight and not curve upward.

What's amazing is most keyboards actually curve "uphill" to your wrists, and even have little feet that increase the incline. The incline though causes your wrists to curve upward MORE, to make your finger impact angle with the keyboard closer to 90 degrees.

The MS 4000 does the opposite of that, and I think that's why its so comfortable.

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@bobobobo are you able to play FPS games using the "wasd" cluster without too much effort? – Absolute0 Apr 28 '10 at 18:42
@Absolute0: Yes, anything with WASD controls works, but RTS's with many hot keys (on both hands) take getting used to, due to the "rift" between the sides of the keyboard – bobobobo Apr 28 '10 at 20:25
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Keyboards are a pretty personal thing, since everyone will have their own preference. The best way to get an idea of the options would be to visit a computer store, where there may be keyboards on display that you can actually get your hands on. That goes a long way, being able to try them out, before buying.

I've used a Microsoft keyboard before - not the one pictured above, but close. It worked well for me, up until it stopped working :/ I'm now using the Logitech Wave keyboard, which I like a lot - it is great for my typing.

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