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I have a major problem keeping not only my desk, but my entire place clean. I end up spending all of my time behind the keyboard and slowly but surely it all turns to crap everywhere but between my monitors and I. It's causing some major problems IRL and I need to fix it.

Question: I'm an engineer, and I eat, sleep, and breathe think like an engineer. Do you have any ideas for engineering a clean place?

Note to the messy users out there: Not really interested. I've been messy for ages so I've got that covered. I'm looking for real suggestions from people who actually keep clean, preferably from some who've been in my shoes before.

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Ray Kroc was a big proponent of "Clean as you go". If you make a mental effort to clear a small bit of the mess at the end of every task, you will find things never get so messy that you can't snap it back into shape in about 3 minutes. Those who do not periodically maintain their work area end up being like the guy who has stacks of paper everywhere around his desk.

Even if it is just pick up or file one document, convert a scrap of paper to an electronic note, etc. A solid mental process that does not leave loose ends hanging out there will pay dividends in every engineering effort. Cleaning is a very simple requirement, so not a lot of process engineering to get it right. Continued adherence to the process you come up with will keep things looking fine in your end of the cubiverse.

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My tasks never seem to end, but I'll set an alarm for each hour of the day and clean up four things when it goes off (lots of catch-up to do) - the more efficiently I work the faster I get back to "real" work here. :) I'll report back tomorrow night on the short term progress to see if 4 items was a good call. – 280Z28 Aug 13 '09 at 18:33
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We hired a cleaning lady. She comes every two weeks with two people in tow. They clean every room in our apartment and it is awesome. It is worth the money to remove the stress of the mess build-up.

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I've had a few people recommend this over time, but at the moment it's too messy to find the floor/furniture to clean it. :\ – 280Z28 Aug 13 '09 at 18:30
Depends on where you live, and if you find a person working for cash vs. a service, but most of the time they'll be glad to do a first-time "big" cleanup. And this can be one of the best things you'll spend money on, especially if you're married. – chris Aug 13 '09 at 20:14
We did a "deep clean" the first time. We just went around and picked up the big stuff and put things away in closets and the cleaners just scrubbed everything down. Then we tackled the closets (still one left actually...). – dwj Aug 14 '09 at 0:46
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I've been considering this problem as well and I would have to say, put some thought/design into it.

For example, look at your cluttered desk. What does not belong? Setup some rules for where stuff belongs and make sure you have enough room.

For example,

  1. A paid Visa statement, shred it (buy a shred and put it on your desk), or file it (keep the filing cabinet or folder near by)
  2. Garbage, get a garbage bin
  3. Screws and wires, stop building bombs...I mean pick a box to store that stuff
  4. Pens, remove all but one

Now you should have the minimal amount of stuff on your desk. Make sure stuff that ends up on the desk can be put in its proper place within reaching distance. This will prevent you from being too lazy.

Now look on your floor and do the same thing. And when you are done, buy a Roomba. Now you have clean floors and desk forever.

I actually haven't done all this myself yet, but that's because I don't have enough room yet. I will be getting a bigger place so I can implement these rules. Some other things I will be doing:

  • Having in-suite laundry, so no dirty clothes basket, it just piles up in the washer.
  • No carpet anywhere to reduce dust
  • No gaps where a Roomba can't fit into
  • Having only one set of utensils and dishes, so I can't pile them up
  • Placing an air cleaner near my desk, where I usually am and run it during the day to reduce dust. (Don't know how effective this will be)
  • Mounting as much as possible under the desk (for example internet routers, power bricks) to reduce surface area for dust
  • No gaps behind or between things for dust
  • Hang pictures without a frame (or a very thin one) to reduce that tiny bit of horizontal surface area for dust
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I get the impression that the question was more about he mindset of cleaning, not the process behind it. Or maybe not. +1 anyway. – Nikhil Chelliah Aug 13 '09 at 20:48
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Sometimes you need practical suggestions, which can encourage a mindset. Kinda like Miyagi's Wax-on/Wax-off exercise. – J. Polfer Aug 13 '09 at 21:48
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True story: last night I came home and my wife had piled up a bunch of my stuff. We talked about what to do, I said I'd think about putting it on Craigslist and figuring out what to keep and what to get rid of.

I took my daughter to swim lessons. By the time we got home, my wife had listed it all on Freecycle and the whole lot was gone.

YMMV.

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Ouch. At that point, I think your issue is bigger than a time / resource management issue, buddy. ;-) – Dan Esparza Aug 13 '09 at 19:26
Sounds like tough love to me ^_^ – emddudley Aug 13 '09 at 19:30
I'm sure he won't miss a thing. If you were going to sell it, you should have. Your wife wins this round. – dwj Aug 14 '09 at 0:47
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Buy a roomba. It won't work until the floor is cleaned of all clutter and no self respecting engineer will let a cool robot sit there idle.

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I have a Dyson Slim that weighs 14 lbs and I can get the entire place in under 10 minutes. :o That particular detail has never been the problem. – 280Z28 Aug 13 '09 at 21:47
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Hire a cleaning lady. If you're an engineer you probably make enough money where it's not going to be a bank-breaking expense. Plus, doing a good job of keeping your place clean is something that will take hours per month. Depending on where you live - I live in an NYC studio apartment and it takes that long.

If you're a good engineer you probably get somewhere around 100 bucks an hour, and a cleaning lady is going to cost less than that for one session per month.

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I've heard it is expensive to live there in NYC. I would have thought it would be more expensive to hire cleaning help there. It is surprising but not a bad thing at all. – Axxmasterr Aug 13 '09 at 19:14
I'm an unemployed engineer doing research on my Ph. D., so I make a bit less than that. :(/:|/:) – 280Z28 Aug 13 '09 at 19:20
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As an engineer myself i know what you mean...

For some reason, machined samples, broken parts, ect keep piling up on my desk (er, at least when I actually had a job...) as well as papers, reference books and other stuff.

My solution to the problem was 2 fold.

First, get a second desk/table near your computer if possible. This table will be designated as space to throw "stuff" on. I like to think of my desk as like a computer system (even though I'm a mech, not a comp). The second table represents the "computer's" hard drive while your primary desk represents the "cache" (and you, of course being the CPU). Anything that you are working on at that particular moment is on your primary desk, nothing else. Anything that you are not working on at that moment goes to your extra table.

The second part of this is the scheduled cleanups. I personally reorient myself every week in terms of project status and set goals and priories for the week. During this time (typically on a Monday morning) i will also go through the table of "stuff" and start either throwing stuff out, returning garbage to the production floor, or put stuff in "storage" (ie, the ground, this is reserved for projects that are going to be on hold for at least the next week and wont be used this week).

I believe in efficiency. however, I also believe in focusing on only one thing at a time and working with it, muti tasking reduces overall efficiency and that is why i don't have a "clean as you go" mentality (im also kinda lazy when it comes to cleaning...). If you are going to do cleaning, do it in one shot so that you know what you spend more time doing as opposed to wasting time figuring out what to do.

I hope that helps

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we are having cleaning persons . they are cleaning every day evening and arrange each desk in office.

Suppose if you would like to read some techniques for that . I would suggest to read

http://www.wikihow.com/Clean-Up-Your-Desk

and I just taken out some points from there

organizers  (files...) for your work.

less photo frames

wipes and tissues
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If you want a structured approach, you could implement 5S.

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If you need some inspiration have a look at the Squalor Survivors site. It's aimed at people with real mess issues, but quite fascinating to read.

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