Now that Microsoft Money will be discontinuing, what are the other options if one should have to switch? And why do you prefer a given option over the others?
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I've been budgeting with MS Money since 2004 and was pretty disappointed to hear it's being discontinued. Budgeting is actually a stress-relieving hobby for me, and I can be a bit of a control-freak when it comes to finances, so I decided to start early looking for a replacement rather than waiting until MS Money can no longer download transactions. Here are the pros and cons of the ones I've tried (updated 10/2010): You Need A Budget Pro (YNAB) - Based on the old envelopes system, YNAB has you allot money from each paycheck to a specific budget category (envelope). It encourages you to live on last money's income, and if you have trouble with overspending, that can be a great plan. Personally, I'm a big believer in the envelope concept, so that's the biggest pro I found. Also, it's a downloaded software, so once I've bought it (for about $50) it's mine, without forced upgrades as far as I've seen. The big con for me was that it does not automatically download transactions. I would have to sign on to each institution's website and manually download to the program. Also, coming from Money, I'm used to having features that YNAB doesn't offer, like the ability to store information about my accounts. Overall, it's forward-thinking and a good budgeting system, but will take some extra time to download transactions and isn't really a comprehensive management tool for all my financial needs. You can try it out with their free trial. Mint - This is a free online program. The free part was a major pro. It also looks pretty, if that's important to you. Updating is automatic, once you've got it all set up, so that's a pro. Mint's budgeting tools are so-so. Basically, you choose a category and tell it your limit. It yells at you (by text or email) when you cross the line, but doesn't seem to offer any other incentive to stay on budget. When I first looked at Mint, it did not connect with my credit union, but it currently connects to all my banks and all but one of my student loan institutions. Another recent improvement is that Mint now allows you to manually add transactions, including pending checks and cash transactions. The cons for me are that it does not give me a good end-of-the-month report, doesn't allow me to enter details of my paychecks, and doesn't give me any cash-flow forecasting. Overall, Mint is a good casual, retrospective, free online tool, but doesn't allow for much planning ahead. Mvelopes - Here's another online option, but this one is subscription-based. Again, we find the old envelopes system, which I think is smart, so that's a pro for me. It's online, so it downloads transactions automatically, but also allows you to manually add transactions, so another pro. The big con on this one is the cost. Depending on how you far ahead you choose to pay (quarterly, yearly or biannually), you're paying $7.60 to $12 per month. They do offer a free trial for 14 days (plus another 14 days offered when you try to cancel). Another con is that they don't provide meaningful reports. Overall, a good concept, but not worth the cost for me. Quicken - I hadn't tried Quicken earlier because they don't offer a free trial, but after the last few fell short, I landed with Quicken 2009. Pro for Quicken, as an MS Money user is that it is remarkably similar in format and options. The registers and reports are nearly identical. One frustration I'd had with Money was that it was ridiculously slow at start-up, and after a year or so of entering data, Quicken is dragging. Con for Quicken, again as an MS Money user, is that it's budgeting is not as detailed as I would like. Also, it does not download transactions smoothly now that my banks all ask security questions as part of sign-in. I have to sign in to my bank's website and manually download. Quicken 2011 is out now, but I haven't tried it yet. Hopefully they've solved the problem of security questions. Quicken 2011 promises an improved cash-flow forecast, which sounds promising, and was a feature of MS Money that I have very much missed. Haven't decided yet if it's worth the $50 to upgrade to 2011. (EDIT: Mike Pennington -> The biggest problem with Quicken is their annoying policy of obsoleting old Quicken versions that work perfectly well; IIRC they do this every two years. This drives expenditures of approx $50 every time that happens) |
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I've never used MS Money at all.. but i really like using Mint
1 Wesabe discontinued their support for financial tools as of July 31, 2010 |
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Having had too many issues with GNUCash on windows (specifically the import from my bank's download of QIF files) I switched to HomeBank. It is open source and cross platform.
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According the the Microsoft Money site:
Another update:
I like the name (Sunset). These versions appear to be available for free. |
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I can't make any positive recommendations, but I can give a quick review of what I've tried. I haven't had luck finding anything really good. For one reason or another, I find quirks or inconsistencies that break my efforts to balance my budget. Money 2004/2005: Pretty UI, easy to get started, online banking easy. However, it plays mastermind in matching up downloaded transactions with existing uncleared entries. So if you happened to have taken $100 out of the ATM the same day you paid a bill that was exactly $100, it'll match them up and you have no choice. Quicken 2006: The crappy transaction mapping had me try Quicken. It's little better with the matching in that you have options, but it still plays the guessing game on you. Once you accept an incorrect match, you can't undo it completely. You can fix it manually, but redownloading transactions doesn't always work. The UI is kinda quirky, but it doesn't really stop you from doing what you need. Despite this shortcoming, it fit me well for years until last April, when they terminated online banking functionality, forcing me to buy new to keep using it. NO THANKS, jerk. Mint: It won't hook into my primary ING Direct accounts, so I can only see what's going on in a secondary account I don't use heavily. Also, I can't find a way to make register entries. I don't see the value in this site, unless I'm just doing it wrong. GnuCash: I'm a fan of open source, and I've evaluated GnuCash before but it didn't work with my credit union for online banking. But, I use a different bank now (ING Direct), so I migrated over. They don't do true online banking; you have to download the OFX file and manually import it. So, I didn't have to deal with the kludgy online OFX/QFX components. Basically, your install experience could vary between quick and simple to configuration hell. I really like the organization of the double-entry accounting. It takes the complexity away from having to maintain separate categories and accounts. Transaction mapping is a little bit better than Quicken, but there is still guesswork and sometimes makes it difficult to make corrections when it maps the wrong things. But, I'm still not really happy, so thankfully someone asked this question. I have some new things to try out. |
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After having a nightmare setting GnuCash up on Mac OS, I've started using (and quite like) Moneydance. It's java so will run anywhere, and whilst it doesn't look amazing, it does seem snappier than you'd expect Java to be. It is not free, but $40 isn't too expensive. Apparently it's got all downloady from your bank stuff in it, but none of that (in any money software) works in the UK... I've just figured out how to make it portable too, which is really nice. |
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Obviously Quicken/QuickBooks - stable products, integration with many financial institutions, decent support (email at least). The only drawback is the cost - which may get worse with the demise of a decent competitor. |
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Quicken for sure. I've spent hours looking at all the others & it seems the most complete. Been using it for appx 6yrs |
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GnuCash is pretty good, I hear it's difficult to get to run on Windows though. EDIT: |
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http://www.gnucash.org/ - because you can't beat the price ;) |
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I've been a bit of a fan of YouNeedABudget in the past, though it does take a bit of effort (not much) to get it going and keep it going and I've lapsed recently. The unique thing about this software is that, unlike MS Money, it doesn't just track what you are spending but gives you a proactive picture of what you can safely spend in future. It's a form of Envelope Budgeting where you save first and spend later. |
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I like Money Manager Ex:
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I know this q is very old but it popped up on the weekly mailout and piqued my interest, I enjoyed reading the responses. Don't dismiss the idea of running Money in a Virtual Machine, ad inifinitum Both the wife and I run a "clean", untainted (legal!) WinXP instance on our macs, that is there solely for the purpose of running Money. We have so much data and have been so underwhelmed by the alternatives that we chose this as a route. Most of the VM providers (parallels, vmware, virtualbox) support a "seamless" mode and the money icon becomes just another app to be clicked. The other side benefit is the ability to snapshot the VM periodically for backup. We have MS money save our data files in the host machine file system directly, not the VM. Hence TimeMachine then looks after our backups. Typically, we manually update stock prices about every 1-2 weeks which is sufficient. Weirdly, even now as we approach 2012, some regular stock prices still update contrary to previous MS statements, but not investment fund prices, which rarely have even back when it was supposedly supported. We are in the UK so online support was always very limited from the banks. As a result, we have never had transaction download, so we are used to entering transactions throughout the month and reconciling with a statement at the end of the month, this works very well for us. We're very happy and won't be changing any time soon. |
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Obviously, MSFT Money was never able to take down Quicken. Quicken has some special offers for Money users to their website. |
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I've been using MS Money 2002 for years and have never seen a need to upgrade. I don't download anything, just enter in every transaction manually, and the cash-flow forecast is key. I was surprised to read JCarterRN note that none of the other options offer a cash-flow forecast. The main reason I'm hesitant to use anything that downloads transactions automatically is that manually entering everything, then reconciling with your bank account periodically gives you a way to double-check for mistakes. |
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I use http://www.mint.com and it seems to do a pretty good job at setting budgets and keeping track of everything. I don't really use it to manage my funds (that's what account managers are for at your banking / investment firm), but I do use it to keep up on my portfolio, cash, and checking accounts. As a bonus, it's free. They have offer credit card and investment offers tailored to your portfolio, apparently, but I've never taken advantage of them. |
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Yodlee MoneyCenter is the base code for many of the popular sites like Mint. It is updated frequently and is the one I've been using for several years. |
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I've been working on a project called dsBudget (http://sites.google.com/site/dsbudgethome/) and although this tool is as simple as it gets, if you are serious about budgeting and keep your expense under control this tool has helped many people to gain control of their finance. |
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I really like of Personal Finances. And I'm using the free version! |
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Reconnecting Microsoft Money has some details on how to get stock prices into MS-Money using Python Scripts, but is seems bit ad-hock. Maybe useful if you are a Python programmer. (The main issue I have for needing a replacement for MS-Money is the ending on-line surport) |
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Keep an eye out for Xero Personal it's only available for New Zealand BNZ customers currently - but once it is released everywhere else, it'll be a game changer. Ps. There's also a video giving a brief overview here |
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I heard a lot of Skrooge when I tried to follow the KDE project. Not sure how well it will run on windows but it should be possible. According to the website:
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Try Ace Money. One of the most comprehensive money management software I have used: http://www.mechcad.net/products/acemoney/personal-finance-software-quicken-alternative.shtml |
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