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I've been looking at this as the same approach as building a desktop computer from scratch but I've never really come across the core things.

  • Can I buy a laptop "case"?
  • Can I buy a motherboard/PSU to fit that case?
  • Can I choose a CPU fan?
  • What are my battery options? Obviously taking into consideration the case.

Why isn't this as easy as putting together a desktop computer? Shouldn't there be standards such as ATX? If they exist, what are they?

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What is your reason behind attempting this? Learning? budget? lack of features/customization? curiosity? – Troggy♦ Aug 24 '09 at 1:47
Curiosity, really. I like laptops but I don't like brands. Sometimes we're stuck with them though. – Ciaran Aug 24 '09 at 2:07
@Ciaran - you "don't like brands" ? What do you mean by that ? You don't like the predefined configurations they offer, or the fact that it bears the name of, for example, HP or Dell ? – ldigas Aug 24 '09 at 14:25
The first one! I like to have control over what's inside my machine. – Ciaran Aug 24 '09 at 14:42
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No, not really.

I have heard of companies like ASUS selling barebones laptops, but they are still mostly complete packages, lacking only the things that are normally upgradeable on consumer laptops, such as memory, wireless cards and drives.

The reason for this would probably be evident if you tried to take apart most laptops. They are very complicated and interweaved machines.

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Simply not true. See my comment. You can buy an empty laptop case, and put anything you want in it (within limits of reason). It is a little "tight", but not impossible to put together. – ldigas Aug 24 '09 at 1:48
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Even if it is possible, you certainly won't get the degree of flexibility and customizability that you would with building a desktop. For me that amounts to being pretty close to a "no". But as always, these things are pretty subjective. – humble coffee Aug 24 '09 at 1:59
@Idigas: I did mention your "empty" cases. I just didn't enumerate what they did not come with like you did. I still would say no, because that is the answer to the question most people are asking, "Can I build a laptop from scratch semi-easily and economically?". – Mike Cooper Aug 24 '09 at 2:12
@Mike Cooper - Sorry, I understood the tone of your post differently the first time I read it :( Yes, of course, it is not economical as buying a pre-build (although, that also depends on the maker and the seller), but sometimes you can disregard that little point of view (my coleague, which assembled his, had to do so because he couldn't find a laptop on our market that had the resolution he needed 1400x1050, and he needed that exact ones because of his old programs in which he hardcoded it) – ldigas Aug 24 '09 at 10:08
@Idigas: No problem, I did actually learn a bit about the subject from your answers, my experience in the area is a bit out of date. Also, the idea of a hard coded resolution in program like you described scares me. :P – Mike Cooper Aug 24 '09 at 17:35
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Yes!

My company is a UK OEM and I assemble laptops (not promoting my company here, just general advice!), You want to Google ODM (Original Design Manufacturer) and try to find resellers of the chassis.

It is unlikely as a individual that you will be able to buy direct, however if you find out the chassis and model numbers, you can Google and try to find a reseller.

Typically, you buy the chassis that has the screen, graphics, motherboard, keyboard and mouse in it and you just assemble cpu, memory, optical, one or two extension cards (Such as wireless) and the software.

That being said, I can tell you that it when comparing to off the shelf laptops, it is near impossible to beat the low end models, some are actually sold below cost and subsidised by the software that is included, however on the very high end models, you can usually save a lot (up to, or over 50%)

A downside though is support. Typically on the laptops I sell, it is very hard to get driver support from the manufacturers, until Nvidia released the GPU drivers for everyone, I was stuck with the version that the manufacturer sent with the model which was annoying... there are some other downsides, but typically you learn to work around them.

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[Disclaimer: I don't currently work in the mobile space.] There has been attempts in the industry to standardize laptop computer form factors. There has been some success in standardizing I/O interfaces and I understand there is a standard power plug gaining traction (I wasn't able to find a link). The mechanical design is still a major differentiator between brand models, so I don't forsee a common mobile form factor gaining as much traction as ATX has. For example, where in ATX you have space to have a standard heatsink for the processor, the laptop has a custom heatsink which dissipates heat from the whole system. It is uniquely designed based upon the system's design and component selection.

My experience from looking at laptop motherboard designs years ago is that each one is unique and when there is commonality, it is kept within the ODM/OEM.

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This may answer some of your questions. Me repeating it would just be retyping the same text.

http://laptoplogic.com/resources/detail.php?id=22

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That link suggests getting a barebones which would include your motherboard, case, screen, keyboard, buttons, etc. Is that what I'm stuck with? – Ciaran Aug 24 '09 at 0:18
I just posted it to give you some insight into the subject. Laptops can be builded from scratch, just like desktops - only difference is that it is a little less common. For example, in a city where I live, there is a company that sells empty laptop casings (no lcd, no nothing, although the choice of lcd's is somewhat dependent on the case), and in it you can take their price list and put motherboard, cpu, hdd ... of your choosing. Unfortunatelly, I am no tfamiliar with all the details, since I never done so, but I know some coleagues who have, and have been very satisfied with the result. – ldigas Aug 24 '09 at 1:45
-1 It's very very annoying that you've written that you know of a company near you that sells empty laptop casings,can build them completely from scratch,yet you don't bother to name it so people can't contact it(potentially allowing people to find out more about the products and other companies too)and you didn't name anything so people can find out about it,but a)it's in the a city where you live and b)u have colleagues that have done it.Yet haven't mentioned what it is. That is a lazy selfish and annoying answer you have.ppl may be interested and all you have to do is ask a colleague4aname – barlop Feb 10 '11 at 13:07
@barlop - it's a small local company in the city of Zagreb, Croatia. It's called Agresta (name mean anything to you? I thought so.). I haven't named it because it is useless (from the statistics I can gather that some 99,99% of people here are not from my part of the world) info. And no (really hate it when people put words in my mouth), I didn't write anywhere they build casings - I said they build laptops, as in compose them of made parts. Also, from what I can see by a quick google check; they don't have a web for some reason. – ldigas Feb 17 '11 at 4:22
now at least somebody can find them if they're desperate! - -1 (+1) – barlop Feb 17 '11 at 8:39
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