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How can I mix two movies together before I handbrake them?

I've got a two part movie on my disk as a pair of VideoTS folders. I want to generate one output movie. I plan on using handbrake to do the encoding, unless someone can point out a better way to do it. The final intent is to create a video file for my iPhone or iPod. I've got about 90 videos already like this, but never done a two-parter.

Am I forced to handbrake it and then reauthor it using another platform? I can do that, but figured there was an easier way to do it. If there is another bit of software that changes my workflow but does this in less steps, I can accept that as an answer as well.

If there isn't a way to combine the two into one video file neatly, then my choice will be to open it in something like Windows Live Movie Maker and just mix the two input mp4/m4v into one file.

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Just remove the first paragraph and the name of the movie and nobody will care. There are enough free movies, or movies you could have created yourself, to make this a generally useful topic without implied legal issues. –  Daniel Beck Jan 29 '12 at 18:13
    
Think so? I wasn't sure. –  jcolebrand Jan 29 '12 at 18:19
    
Yeah, never saw somebody ranting about that here, like ever. Basically, you don't want to ever re-encode anything. I would suggest to rip them both to h.264 / MP4 using Handbrake and the exact same settings, then merging them with a tool like MP4Box. –  slhck Jan 29 '12 at 18:27
    
So technically, @slhck, I want to ask how to reflow two video files together with something like MP4Box instead of asking how to do it with handbrake? Reckon I should start a new Q and leave this one for the googlers? –  jcolebrand Jan 29 '12 at 18:31
    
No, it's fine to stay. The solution is kinda the same, I guess. I'm just trying to find out how to do that all on Windows :) –  slhck Jan 29 '12 at 18:34

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How to approach this

If you have two input movies, and want to generate one output movie, you should try not to re-encode them as you go, but rather take the original bitstream.

In your case, the possibilities are either:

VideoTS Part 1 → MP4 Part 1
VideoTS Part 2 → MP4 Part 2
MP4 Part 1 & MP4 Part 2 → Final MP4

… or:

VideoTS Part 1 & VideoTS Part 2 → Intermediate Video
Intermediate Video → Final MP4

Concatenating with MP4Box

I would choose the first option since I don't know if there's any tool that would take the "raw" DVD files and concatenate them for you.

You can simply use Handbrake to encode the videos to MP4 files with appropriate settings (e.g. using the iPhone or iPod presets). It's important you choose exactly the same settings for both videos.

Then, use MP4Box to concatenate those:

mp4box -cat video-a.mp4 -cat video-b.mp4 final.mp4

Why you shouldn't re-encode

The important part is that you actually use a tool like MP4Box to concatenate the videos, and not a Non Linear Editor like Windows Movie Maker. As far as I know, WMM will not allow you to just copy the h.264 codec bitstreams, but needs to re-encode the video after you've concatenated them.

This means that you will experience generation loss, like you know from JPEG images. It might not be noticeable, but I don't know how good Windows Movie Maker's encoder even is to begin with. I would doubt the quality would be the same.

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New tool and everything! Yay workflows! I honestly didn't think it would cause generation loss to do that in WMM, but now that you point it out, that makes some sense. I thought maybe Handbrake could do the job alone. Ah well, this will be great! –  jcolebrand Jan 29 '12 at 18:46

If you drop all the files in one directory with names that put them in the right order then open the directory in handbrake (rather than the files) it will automatically merge them - so no need to merge before hand.

  • I randomly tried that after failing to get other things to work (YMMV).
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You should fix your answer in order for it to be understand easily. And don't place a bullet without a list like that –  Lưu Vĩnh Phúc Oct 21 '13 at 8:48

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