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This is a follow up of my earlier question. Using the recovery media creator (another story for another day X( ) I was successful in getting Win 7 64 bit with Toshiba drivers installed and running.

But, there has been a notable lag in the time the PC goes from "start up" to "login screen" to "logged in and ready".

  1. From cold boot/restart to the login screen is nearly one min
  2. From login to ready is nearly one minute.
  3. Subsequently, I have added portable apps, Rocket dock and RK Launcher to be run at startup. (these take another 30 secs to come up)

So far, I have used a combination of "MSConfig" and "Autorun" tools to prune a lot of the Toshiba "support applications" from running at start up. I had used the free "Wise Registry Cleaner" tool's PC optimiser settings also. Did not help too much, so I have reverted those settings back to the computer defaults

Reiterate a few points to help people answer better:

  • New HDD (1 TB, resized primary partition after Toshiba completed its Windows plus recovery+boot installs, into (a) multiple logical ex4 partitions for Linux, and, (b) one logical NTFS partition for D: in Windows)
  • Brand new Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit installation done via Toshiba recovery USB creator (Lots of updates happening intermittently (SP1 update happening in background as well))
  • No SSD, and do not intend to buy one. So, please avoid "buy an SSD" solutions
  • I boot off USB drives and run Linux very often, so I cannot turn off that option in BIOS :)
  • HW: intel i3 core CPU and integrated graphics card, with 4 GB RAM
  • The most recent version of BIOS as per Toshiba tool (Insyde H2O 1.4 (I think, but I am not sure))

First question: Is this normal and acceptable boot times for my configuration. It is not, IMO, as I recall the machine used to be faster, earlier.

Second question: If it is indeed slow boot times, any suggestions other than what I have already done, or to independently complement what I have already attempted above?

P.S: When I boot off my USB drives into Linux, the same machine is amazingly fast.... From "start up" to "ready" in under a minute (regardless of distro used). So, IMO the machine itself is fine.



So, I have installed SP1 and that Enterprise Hotfix rollup so far. I am yet to notice a humanly discernible difference in boot times. Often times, I feel as though it has regressed and is lagging, but then again I am watching this pot boil, for too long now. :)

Data is king, so I am attaching a run of xbootmgr trace (boot and shutdown). Did you want me to boot in a cycle of 5-6 times like some of those tutorials/blog posts? Let me know.

Searching the net tells me that Avira and Avast have had this disk activity complaints affecting boot on earlier versions in the past (2011/2012). So, I am indeed sceptical if changing my antivir is going to make that much of a difference? So, to clarify, I am still running avira/avguard in my present setup like yesterday...

Also, take a look at the comments I had left for your previous reply in conjunction with this information (if you haven't seen it already, that is) :-)

Your thoughts on this are welcome and will be appreciated.

Here is the boot/shutdown trace (again, link valid for two days only).

Once again, thanks very much. :)

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closed as too localized by Daniel Beck Jun 10 '13 at 7:21

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capture a xbootmgr trace, zip, upload the trace and add a link. I'll analyze it and see why Windows is slow. – magicandre1981 Jun 6 '13 at 18:52
Thanks for the reply. Site is down. What exactly would you have me do? Is there another link/tutorial? – Surio Jun 6 '13 at 20:37
@magicandre1981, Searched the net for alternative tutorials, and I have run the xbootmgr commands, and uploaded the [etl files here] (…) They will be online only for two days. Do let me know if something jumped at you. Thanks. – Surio Jun 6 '13 at 21:28
If you have new information to share, please edit the question. This site is not a discussion forum, but a Q&A site, where questions are supposed to help others with similar problems as well -- links expiring after two days aren't exactly helping there. Please try to edit your question to clearly state the problem as you perceive it now so others can understand what it's about without reading 50 comments. – Daniel Beck Jun 10 '13 at 7:20
@DanielBeck, aka "Mr.Mod", this is an non winnable battle from get go (having witnessed other arbitrarily similar ones on Wikipedia and here) but I am going to request you to open the posts again. We're this close to resolution (& Avira is on the case due to data). I promise to provide a new answer with full summary of last 3 days. Links expiring are not the point, but magicandre1981's commentary from those links are more important. Also, the topic is relevant because I have provided data by running traces on nearly 4 different anti virus. I think it is relevant to wider group. Pretty please? – Surio Jun 10 '13 at 8:36

ok, booting to Desktop takes 32s and the system is fully booted in 116s:

timing bootDoneViaExplorer="32711" bootDoneViaPostBoot="126711"

I can see tht the HDD is the bottleneck. Your Seagate Samsung Spinpoint M8 1000GB is busy all the time:

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This is bad, very bad. I can see that avguard.exe causes a lot of disk IO. So try a different AV tool instead of AntiVir or buy a SSD.

Also install the Sp1 (RTM no longer gets updates!). You should also install the Enterprise Hotfix rollup which includes some performance hotfixes for faster boot.

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Didn't know where to start. Thanks for that. Re: HDD activity, I have made several (25 or so) small EXT4 partitions to install a few linux distros from my USB on my HDD. I have two NTFS partitions (300 GB primary and ~ 180 GB extended), and the ext4 does not even show up in Windows. Is the number or partitions causing a problem? (I wouldn't think so) SP1 is getting downloaded by Windows update right now (~1GB!!) I just renewed my AV annual licence last week. I am not sure about AV refunds, but do you have an alternate suggestion what other AV to switch to? Lousy Markdown formatting.Sorry! – Surio Jun 7 '13 at 8:11
one more thing... SSDs are over priced for their disk capacity (at least here), and I just invested in a 1tb disk. And i don't relish if I am being forced down that road by oem+os nexus :( – Surio Jun 7 '13 at 8:24
Also, I purchased this Samsung Spinpoint M8 1000GB HDD based on many online reviews about a) less platters, so reduced seeks and b) less power consuming and less everything etc... etc... It is laughably ironical, that it is the one causing the bottleneck... – Surio Jun 7 '13 at 8:32
do the same like me. remove the DVD drive, buy a HDD caddy and install the Samsung HDD into this caddy. Than I bought a 256GB Samsung SSD and cloned my Windows to the SSD. Now I have 1TB for data and 256GB for Windows + tools. – magicandre1981 Jun 7 '13 at 18:13
I know how it is done, but..... budget, man.... budget :-P Secondly, these caddy things, being out of the ordinary here, will probably be expensive as hell too! But, please do take a look at the other trace I uploaded below and let me know your thoughts. Also, is there a good tutorial on how to read the etl and cab file? – Surio Jun 7 '13 at 18:49

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