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I have a switch with Power over Ethernet capabilities. Is it allowed to connect a PC to a PoE switch?

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Yes, of course. The PC won't use the power.

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    Not sure about the of course bit here. It'd be bad if there was excessive voltage or current in the cable which would damage the PC.
    – Richard
    Jul 30, 2012 at 22:47
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    True for 802.3af/at compliant PoE injectors. Not necessarily true for "passive" PoE injectors. Nov 14, 2019 at 12:04
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Yes, it is perfectly safe. The switch performs a check before it applies power.

The following is drawn from this site; the last couple of paragraphs (emphasis added) have the relevant bits.

Network cables, such as Cat 5e and Cat 6, comprise eight wires arranged as four twisted pairs. In 10 and 100BASE-T Ethernet, two of these pairs are used for sending information, and these are known as the data pairs. The other two pairs are unused and are referred to as the spare pairs (Gigabit Ethernet uses all four pairs).

Because electrical currents flow in a loop, two conductors are required to deliver power over a cable. PoE treats each pair as a single conductor, and can use either the two data pairs or the two spare pairs to carry electrical current.

Power over Ethernet is injected onto the cable at a voltage between 44 and 57 volts DC, and typically 48 volts is used. This relatively high voltage allows efficient power transfer along the cable, while still being low enough to be regarded as safe.

This voltage is safe for users, but it can still damage equipment that has not been designed to receive PoE. Therefore, before a PoE switch or midspan (known as a PSE, for power sourcing equipment) can enable power to a connected IP camera or other equipment (known as a PD, for powered device), it must perform a signature detection process.

Signature detection uses a lower voltage to detect a characteristic signature of IEEE-compatible PDs (a 25kOhm resistance). Once this signature has been detected, the PSE knows that higher voltages can be safely applied.

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    True for 802.3af/at compliant PoE injectors. Not necessarily true for "passive" PoE injectors. Nov 14, 2019 at 12:04
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Updated answer for 2016.

The good news is: if you have a switch or injector that doesn't claim to be "passive" and conforms to 802.3af (the PoE standard) or 802.3at (the PoE Plus standard), it will detect PoE before applying power as mentioned by @Richard. This renders the connection perfectly safe to use for data only or for data + power.

However, there exists a class of PoE switches or injectors, usually referred to as "passive" or "always on", which supply power without first performing signature detection. Why would anyone do this? Because it's significantly cheaper. Whether it damages your device depends on the type of passive injector and your device. Many passive devices expect power on the unused pins (4,5,7,8) of a 10/100 RJ45 connection. If your non-PoE 10/100 device leaves these pins disconnected from circuitry (since they aren't used), then probably nothing will happen. However, gigabit connections usually must share power and data on the same wires. And I wouldn't risk it there... maybe the NIC will handle it gracefully... maybe it will burn out.

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There are different types of PoE. One type that is dangerous to non-PoE (and some PoE) equipment in called passive PoE. Passive has a constant voltage regardless of what is plugged into it, if the equipment is not intended to receive that voltage it can damage or destroy it. The types that are safe for all equipment is labeled as 802.3af or 802.3at (also known as PoE+), both of which detect whether the attached equipment requires PoE and what voltage and amperage is needed. 802.3af PoE can provide a maximum of 15.4 Watts DC, 802.3at can send up to 25.5 Watts. If a device that was intended for 802.3af PoE is attached to a switch port or injector that uses passive PoE it can be damaged just as easily as a non-PoE device can.

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    Welcome to Super User. This kinda covers the same ground as Kasey Speakman's answer from 3 yrs ago.
    – fixer1234
    Apr 26, 2019 at 19:26
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Be careful with poe and RJ-45 connector on PC-laptop-macbook-usb ethernet adapter etc... (anything that not designed for poe), becouse i saw a laptop with fried lan connector becouse cheap poe wall adapter met with lan port...

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    Was that a fault of the PoE of a fault of the laptop? PoE is supposed to work dif devices not designed for PoE.
    – RalfFriedl
    Sep 19, 2018 at 5:53
  • I there is a cheap and or defective device involved like the wall adapter harm can be done with a normal switch without POE as well. So you should always be careful with your electronic devices!
    – Albin
    Sep 28, 2018 at 0:27

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