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My current video card (9600GT) is dying and I'm searching for a new video card. Between acquiring my current one and now, I got a lot more knowledge about hardware and I want to use that to pick my new card. So I decided to not just buy some popular card blindly, but to search for a card able to handle my hardware requirements.

I searched the specs at the NVidia site for the GT640 and was confused by the memory section and some questions raised. My current card's memory bus width is 256bit and has 1GB of memory. I checked Google about the importance of bus width. And all the links basically said the same 'The higher the number the more potential simultaneously traffic can be transferred'. This was already clear to me, yet there are currently a lot of new cards which are considered better than my current one with a lower bus width.

To go in more detail about my question I copied the memory info from the NVidia site:

                          GT 640        GT640 GDDR5
Memory Specs:
Memory Clock              1.8 Gbps      5.0 Gbps
Standard Memory Config    2048 MB       1024 MB
Memory Interface          DDR3          GDDR5
Memory Interface Width    128-bit       64-bit
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec) 28.5          40.0

What puzzled me is that the Memory Bandwidth seems to me the most important part, yet the lower bus width has the higher 'performance'.
Is this due to the fact the memory interface is GDDR5 and is therefore able to have a higher memory clock speed (5Gbps)? If I am to buy a new video card, should I check the bus width? Memory clock? Bandwith? Amount of memory?

My current card ahs 1GB memory, so I was searching for a 2GB memory card, but now I'm not so sure any more whether that is really 'better'.

My main question:
To me it seems that memory performance is made up by the combination of bus width and frequency. Is this true? If yes, why are there so many sites telling me I need to get a card with a high bus width? If no, then what IS important when it goes about memory performance on a video card.

NOTE: The memory bandwidth is (almost) never displayed on vendor sites. How can I determine which card is better without knowing the bandwith?

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  • You are comparing two cards that are almost 5x faster. to make it easier lets just say 5.0 Gbps is 5x faster then 1.8 Gbps. That means it doesn't matter the interface width is smaller ( still important ) or the amount of memory is small (half the size) the card's frequency is 5x faster. For every single instruction the GT 650 can accomplish the GT640 GDDR5 can perform 5 instructions the same amount of time. This is the same thing that made AMD, their CPUs for a period of time, perform less instructions then Intel's products and thus faster.
    – Ramhound
    May 24, 2014 at 18:33
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    I don't know enough to fully post a technical answer. One thing I didn't mention was that because interface width is 128-bit vs 64-bit its not actually 5x faster. Its still faster I would estimate by a factor 2.5. **A GPU that doesn't use GDDR5 isn't worth purchasing unless you get one with say 6GB" but you won't because of the clock speed limitations and the bandwidth limitations of GDDR3.
    – Ramhound
    May 24, 2014 at 18:38

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Bus width is important, but only when you compare the same memory technology. GDDR is fundamentally different from DDR, it trades latency for bandwidth.

GPUs are data-parallel by nature, they benefit from memory architectures that can fetch large blocks of data at a time when they begin a task on a particular dataset, not so much small randomly distributed memory in as few cycles as possible. CPUs tend to want the latter to prevent stalls waiting for memory, so DDR is usually the domain of CPUs and GDDR for dedicated GPUs.

GDDR memory with a smaller bus-width is capable of outperforming DDR memory because the timings on GDDR allow for much greater clock speeds (at the expense of latency). It is not a fluke that the 64-bit bus width GDDR5 memory has greater throughput, but at the same time 40 GiB/sec bandwidth is laughable for GDDR5. If you saw that card up against a similarly clocked 384-bit GDDR5 card, it would be night and day.

Dedicated GPUs with DDR memory exist only in the very lowest-end value segment, DDR memory is cheap, but it actually hinders GPU performance much the way that using GDDR memory on a latency-sensitive CPU is less than ideal.

You definitely want the GDDR model, memory bandwidth is extremely important for real-time graphics such as games. Shadows and other effects eat memory bandwidth like there is no tomorrow. GPGPU applications do not benefit as much from GDDR, but I highly doubt you are in the market for such a low- to mid-range GPU to crunch numbers.

Update:

Is it the case that memory bandwidth usually is not published? I have not regularly looked at the consumer part of vendor sites in years.

Barring actual bandwidth numbers, the prime thing that bandwidth affects is fillrate. If bandwidth is not listed, texture/pixel fillrate is a pretty good indication. Pixel fillrate is what effectively limits your resolution and traditional (e.g. MSAA) anti-aliasing capabilities at playable framerates. Newer anti-aliasing techniques are based on image post-processing and move a lot of the burden from memory to compute.

Likewise, shadow quality is limited by both pixel fillrate during construction of shadow maps and texel fillrate during the application of shadows. If you are concerned about image quality, then fillrate is generally your number one consideration and that is calculated based on the number of ROPs and memory bandwidth. Neither one of those details may be listed by a vendor, but fillrate generally is listed in one form or another.

In the absolute worst case, Wikipedia has lists of very detailed hardware specs. for all major AMD, NV and Intel GPUs that exceeds the information you will find on the vendors' consumer sites.

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  • You said pretty much the same as Ramhound in his comments did. I still miss some technical background information.
    – Mixxiphoid
    May 26, 2014 at 18:15
  • @Mixxiphoid Not at all, he did not even recognize the fact that one of the GPUs is using DDR memory. GDDR3 is not the same thing as DDR3, DDR3 is actually newer and higher-performance than GDDR3 with the same clock rate/bus width. May 26, 2014 at 18:19
  • Sure, but the difference in speed was already pointed out. I understand the levels of (G)DDR memory, but my question is more about the technical why and what I should be looking for when checking cards. If a card has DDR3 and has a higher bandwidth than a card with GDDR5, it still doesn't matter. (Which will be the case if the DDR3 was on a 256 bit bus.)
    – Mixxiphoid
    May 26, 2014 at 18:28
  • @Mixxiphoid Then I have absolutely no idea what you are asking for, because I already explained that what you should be looking for is memory bandwidth and the reasons why you cannot compute bandwidth the same way for different memory technologies. I even went out of my way to explain why rendering applications do not benefit from the lower latency memory offered by the DDR variant of this card. May 26, 2014 at 18:32
  • Maybe I was harsh, please do not misunderstand me. Your answer does add information. I will update my question, that may be not entirely clear too.
    – Mixxiphoid
    May 26, 2014 at 18:53

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