My graphic card is MSI gtx970, which uses PCIe 3.0x16. My M.2 SSD card is Samsung 950 pro, which uses PCIe 3.0x4. My motherboard is MSI z-170 pro

I am not very familiar with the difference between 3.0x4 and 3.0x16, but I did hear someone say by installing M.2, the PCIe's speed has to reduce to x4 too, which has a negtive influence on the performance of my graphic card.

Is this true? Should I change my spec?

Edit: Which tool is the best to tell whether my gears are working on their best?

  • "but I did hear someone say by installing M.2" Where did you hear that? Dec 31 '15 at 18:27
  • Couldn't find it, some posts from Tom's hardware I guess. On a second thought, who says what is not essential, the more important question is what tool I can use to check whether my graphic card, m.2 ssd card are both working optimizedly. I am editting the main question.
    – shenkwen
    Dec 31 '15 at 18:32
  • Answered it, but really. It was in the manual.
    – Hennes
    Jan 4 '16 at 19:39

Your motherboard is a MSI Z-170 Pro. This is a board with a Z170 chipset for Skylake CPU's. That means it has 16 PCI-e lanes from the skylake CPU and a 4 more from the Z170 chipset (all PCI-e v3). That is 20 PCI-e lanes in total, not a lot.

It needs these lanes to connect to devices such as NICs, SATA ports, M2 slots, general PCI-e slots etc etc. But it does not have enough to connect everything at the same time. So manufacturers had two choices:

  1. Offer limited functionality.
  2. Move lanes assigment around where needed.

The last is nothing new. E.g. a board may come with two physical x16 PCI-e slots, but only have 16 lanes for them. Allowing the user to use one slot at x16 speed, or two slots at x8.

Your board does something similar. Rather than just two slots and 16 lanes it has 20 lanes, but 7 places to connect them to. One of those is the M2 slot.

page 12 of your motherboard's manual shows this quite nicely, including the default assigned max lanes:

Manual, page 12, part off

This seems to show 6 slots and 24 lanes. However when using both x16 slots both drop down to x4 speeds. This is probably where your "I did hear someone say" comes from. Not from the M2 part, even though M2 connectors can also be x4.

M2 however, can (and should) carry both SATA and PCI-e, eitherwith 2 or with 4 lanes.

In you case you can put a SATA SSD in the M2 slot. This will disable two of you normal SATA slots (see manual page 15) and give you no speed advantage over a regular SSD. Not a good thing, unless you have a spare SATA M2 or like the smaller form factor.

If you connect a PCI-e based SSD to the M2 slot it will disable two different SATA ports, but you will potentially get more speed. The manual does not mention reducing lanes the the x16 slots. Those will be unaffectec by the M2 SSD.

Manual, page 15

by installing M.2, the PCIe's speed has to reduce to x4 too,

UHm, no. PCI-e speed remains at 8GHz max for PCI-e v3. (and falls back to 5GHz for PCI-e v2 devices). Its speed as such is never affected. It number of lanes (and thoughput is lanes x speed) is reduced. Minor nitpicking perhaps, but I just had to correct.

which has a negtive influence on the performance of my graphic card.

Fewer lanes does mean less maximum thoughput. I reasonable guess is that using two PCI-e devices in both x16 slots will drop the performance of the cards by about 4%. Not much. But if you really want max gaming performance and two graphics cards then select another Z170 board, one which can power at least two slots at x8 (or fall back to older boards based on Hasswell-E (28 or 40 lanes) or X58 (40 lanes).

If you do not want extreme gaming (just very high performance gaming)then go for a single graphics card and put that in slot PCI-e #2. Put other cards in the x1 slots (you have 3 of those!) or in the other x16 slot if you can afford to drop about 4% in graphics performance.

  • Thank you very much. Your answer answers another question I was about to ask: why my sata 3 and sata4 are not working. Ironically when I call msi support and mentioned that I suspect it could be the M.2 card they said it was not possible and suggested me to return the motherboard...
    – shenkwen
    Jan 4 '16 at 19:44
  • I am waiting for my own Z170 motherboard to arrive (I went with a GA-Z170X-Gaming 7-EU for the Alpine Ridge controller) and it has similar limitations in its manual. Though it disables different ports.
    – Hennes
    Jan 4 '16 at 19:49
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    No excuse for MSI support not knowing their own product though. That was sloppy of them.
    – Hennes
    Jan 4 '16 at 19:50
  • You might be the person to answer this question: superuser.com/questions/1223789/… Jun 28 '17 at 21:01
  • Actually, CUDA (or openCL) are not things I have ever used. Answer posted on generic assumptions, but someone with domain knowledge could probably post a much better answer.
    – Hennes
    Jul 1 '17 at 20:42

NO. I have Z77 cipset, and after I install a 960EVO NVMe SSD in PCIEx 4x adaptor, Read and Write speeds of GPU memory slow down from 12 to 6Gb\sec.! I have 3 slots of PCIEx x16 3.0. They is no anoter slowdown cores, I tested with GPU test from AIDA.

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