I have a fairly vanilla home LAN with an Internet provider-supplied router providing DHCP. The router uses many of its default settings unmodified. The home network is and the router itself is known internally as

I need to configure several similar routers to change their default settings. One of my computers (running FreeBSD) has a spare Ethernet interface (bce0) and I connected one of these additional routers to it. As expected, this router also uses The machine now has two "configured" interfaces:

  • bce1 --, which is connected to the "real" router, connecting it to the Internet and the rest of the home LAN
  • bce0 --, which is connected to the second router, which I need to change to use different network settings

How can I reach this second router without breaking the machine's connectivity with the LAN and the Internet? Simply trying to reach goes through bce1 and reaches my normal router...

Can ipfw(8) somehow force certain packets to go out using bce0 instead of bce1? Preferably, without the use of "fib", because adding one requires a reboot...

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    Two identical subnets on different interfaces both getting addresses via DHCP will be a pain no matter what you do. Configure one of your routers for a different subnet, e.g. All routers I've seen can be configured that way.
    – dirkt
    Oct 26, 2016 at 4:54
  • Of course, it will be a pain. But that's the default setting for these routers after a reset... And I don't want to reconfigure my entire home LAN for this one task. If there is no way to do it, I'll pick one computer, disconnect it from the LAN (and the Internet) and work with that. But I was hoping to avoid that...
    – Mikhail T.
    Oct 26, 2016 at 14:20

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You cannot have two hosts with the same IP address if you want to use normal routing, since routing is a desitination address based decision. A packet cannot go two ways at once.

If you really want to screw yourself big time you can try to fake all kinds of stuff to bend the rules, but it will be a real pain in the backside.

You can, for example, create a fake IP address for the device to be configured ( and set a manual ARP entry (on bce0) using the MAC of the device, and hope that it won't filter on dst IP if the packet is addressed to it by layer2. In that case your device to be configured may be accessed by the fake ( address if you create a host route for it to bce0.

Or you can try to do the same with your uplink: create a new network (, give yourself an address in it (, create a fake IP ( ARP entry with the MAC of your uplink (on bce1) and use it as a default gateway. You may also need a proxy-ARP for 192.168.1.xx (your ip on bce1), your system may be confused enough at that point that it won't automagically handle your original IP (or your rp-filter may act on that).

This theory is based on linux but should apply on any networking devices, including *BSD.

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