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In Apple's marketing materials, the company often refers to the Apple Watch as "Watch". If that last sentence displayed as "apple symbolWatch", congratulations! You're probably using an Apple device.

To demonstrate, here's what the Wikipedia page for Apple Watch looks like on an iPad.

Apple watch Wikipedia page viewed on iPad

Here's what that same section looks like on Windows 10.

Apple watch Wikipedia page viewed on a Windows PC

Occasionally, you can even see this happen on Stack Exchange when browsing Ask Different.

Misformatted Apple emoji on Ask Different

Is there any way to make the Apple logo  display properly on a Windows PC?


Edit: It's worth noting this issue happens in Google Chrome, Firefox, and Microsoft Edge, though the symbol looks different in each browser.

  • Google Chrome:
  • Mozilla Firefox:
  • Microsoft Edge:
  • Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. – DavidPostill May 5 '17 at 11:59
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    We tend to move comments to chat when there a lot of them (over 20 in this case). They will remain there indefinitely. – DavidPostill May 5 '17 at 13:16
  • It might be a good idea to bring this up in Meta for the StackExchange site, so that they can replace the symbol with a vector image (so it would scale properly no matter the font size.) Or perhaps some other solution, like using a webfont with that glyph. – trlkly May 6 '17 at 22:53
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    As an aside, I've always thought non-Apple vendors should ship a default PUA cont with a rotten apple, rotten apple core, apple with worm in it, or similar glyph in this slot, just to discourage its use by making sites/documents using it render in a way that mocks Apple. – R.. May 7 '17 at 2:27
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    Do you need the symbol to specifically be the Apple logo, or will any apple-shaped glyph (like 🍎 or 🍏) do? – user46971 May 7 '17 at 5:29
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In Firefox, the character appears in a box with the hexadecimal characters F8FF. U+F8FF is a private-use character code point, intended for specific applications that need to display specialized characters not specified by the Unicode standard. For example, a website's custom typeface may assign site-specific glyphs to private-use code points, and a mobile device's own fonts may use the code points for their own purposes.

These characters are by their very nature application-specific and most likely will not render correctly outside their source application.

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The real question to you is, for what purpose you need it?

This character is Unicode F8FF, which is in the Private Use Areas and is not defined by the Unicode standard what it should be. So Apple in their own systems uses a font (or fonts) in which they placed the Apple logo at the F8FF location, but on Windows systems no normal font has this symbol, and certainly not in the same exact location.

So the answer to the question on how to display it in your browsers, the answer is that there isn't really a way to do that.

However - and here's where I add more than previous answers - if you just want to use this symbol on a Windows machine in different programs for typing and printing, there is a way to got the same symbol. Here's how:

  1. First, we need to open the Window Character Map app. So, just press Windows+R keys from keyboard to open Run window and then type the word charmap and hit Enter.
  2. This will open the Characters Map app, this built-in Windows app holds lots of special characters and symbols like Spade, Heart, Club, Diamond, Smiling faces and much more according to the font type. Let’s see how to type Apple logo symbol.
  3. Select font face “Baskerville Old Face” from Font drop-down menu. Scroll down a bit and you’ll see Apple logo in the characters list. enter image description here
  4. Select the Apple logo symbol, hit the “Select” and then “Copy” buttons to copy the Apple character to the clipboard.
  5. Now go back where you want to use this Apple symbol and Paste it by pressing Ctrl+V keys from the keyboard.

Note: this is not using the same F8FF glyph that Apple's fonts use, but instead it has the same symbol in a different Private Use Area, F000.

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    I didn't specifically need the apple emoji for any specific purpose. I mostly just wanted to be able to read posts that used the symbol. It's good to know where to find the symbol if I ever need it though. – Steven M. Vascellaro May 3 '17 at 2:34
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    What would stop Windows from implementing a Window's logo on their machines, and have their logo associated with all the apple products? – ESR May 3 '17 at 6:16
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    @EdmundReed: Nothing. The Private Use Area is for, well, Private Use, anybody can use it for anything. – Jörg W Mittag May 3 '17 at 7:58
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    @EdmundReed You're a genius haha – Firebug May 3 '17 at 13:41
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    @wizzwizz4, I have not come across such font. Wingdings has the (very old) Windows logo also as a PUA glyph, but 0xFF and not F8FF. – Yisroel Tech May 4 '17 at 1:40
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The other answers already explain why you cannot display U+F8FF as an Apple logo on non-Apple systems. But for future reference:

If you would be in control of the website (which you're not on Wikipedia, nor on Ask Different), then you could add a web font to reliably display such icons on that website.

The well-known Font Awesome includes the Apple logo as fa-apple:

<link rel="stylesheet"
href="https://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/font-awesome/4.7.0/css/font-awesome.min.css">

...

<p><b>Apple Watch</b> (stylized 
as <i class="fa fa-apple" aria-hidden="true" title="Apple"></i>WATCH) ...</p>

<p>The Windows Logo (printed 
as <i class="fa fa-windows" aria-hidden="true" title="Windows logo"></i>) ...</p>

This will work in all modern browsers; you can have a look with yours.

In Font Awesome, the code point is not U+F8FF but U+F179, and fa-windows is U+F17A (both also in the private use area, like explained in other answers).

  • This seems like a good alternative to embedding inline images. Ironically, inlining the Apple logo seems to cause issues when viewed on an iPhone. – Steven M. Vascellaro May 5 '17 at 13:43
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    I personally dislike unjustified use of (full) Web Fonts. I understand that some designers consider typography to be paramount, but from the perspective of users with slow machines/connections, they bloat up and slow down the page for no reason where a built-in system font could be used. Why not embed the Apple logo as a PNG or SVG picture? Or even create a custom version of the Web Font with just the symbols you needed the font for? The page will end up more lightweight this way. – Pabru May 5 '17 at 15:35
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    If you're going to use a web font, at least serve it from your own server rather than linking to a third-party font site. – R.. May 7 '17 at 2:29
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    @R.. Assuming you'd still be serving the full font then: can you explain why serving from your own server is better? Using a common CDN avoids having to download common web fonts such as Font Awesome for multiple websites. (The browser cache will be shared across websites that use the same CDN.) Also, many CDNs are faster than many low budget websites, and using a separate domain might benefit from browser limits on the maximum number of connections to a single domain. Of course, one could add a fallback in case the CDN is not operational. – Arjan May 7 '17 at 8:15
  • @Arjan: There are various reasons you shouldn't serve from a CDN. If they require you to use their CSS or worse JS rather than just linking to the font file from your own CSS, there are all sorts of ways that changes on their side could break your site, or that bugs in their code could translate into security compromises on your site and for your users. The CDN font is going to be complete, rather than just a few characters your site needs, so it will be larger and slower for the user's browser to load... – R.. May 7 '17 at 15:07
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I'm reading the question as if you go to the Wikipedia page—you want to see the the correct glyph displayed on your screen. To do this, I think you would have to find a font or create your own font with the Unicode point U+F8FF displaying the glyph, then install it into your font folder.

However this would mean if you go to a different Web page or an internal application which used U+F8FF - you would again see the Apple logo even if it was not appropriate.

For the question of which font you could use look at Which (default) fonts contain the Windows/Apple logo? which would then lead to exporting the Macintosh font and importing it into Windows - I don't have an Apple so I have not looked for an answer to if that is possible.

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    The point is that there is no "correct" glyph in this context. – Lightness Races in Orbit May 3 '17 at 15:03
  • In the context of the Wikipedia page , being global public use that is true, there is no correct glyph. In the context of Private Use on the viewing computer - I think the Apple glyph is the one to use as the glyph for that code-point. – Ross May 3 '17 at 21:59
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    According to what logic? By definition, it can be anything. Just because it's not publicly accessible to the world doesn't mean it has to look like the Apple logo. Indeed, quite the opposite. Simply do not use it outside of an application with strict control over the rendering of its own fonts. Period! – Lightness Races in Orbit May 3 '17 at 22:14
  • yes - now I think about it like that , I stand corrected. – Ross May 3 '17 at 22:18
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Windows comes with an application called Private Character Editor. Open it, select the code F8FF from the last line and the last column and then draw in your own Apple logo as well as good or bad as you like.

You may have to restart the browser for the font to start working.

screenshot

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U+F8FF in range of ConScript Unicode Registry, a volunteer project to coordinate the assignment of code points in the Unicode Private Use Area for the encoding of artificial scripts including those for constructed languages.

U+F8D0U+F8FF is range for Klingon alphabets, and some fonts support it: code2000 font, constructium font, etc.

U+F8FF is "Klingon Mummification Glyph", and I see it in your question:

printscreen

So, U+F8FF is really not good idea for company logo =)

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I'll assume you're using Edge as that comes with Windows 10 out of the box. If that is true then I believe your issue is with edge and not Win10 at large.

Edge comes with little to no accessible font options/settings. This has to do with it's branding/status as a 'metro app,' which is only relevant because in most other fully featured browsers (incl. IE11) you'll find options to set how fonts are displayed and whether or not to force custom fonts or to allow a website to decide it's own font. The issue here is that the sites your viewing are attempting to display a font that windows 10 may not have. In this case I can confirm that in the case of Win10 pro that Baskerville Old Face is included and I believe that if you attempt to view this within a different browser you will see the apple logo render properly.

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    I'm actually using Google Chrome. I've edited my question to include that info – Steven M. Vascellaro May 3 '17 at 2:35
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    Whilst I'm also cross about Microsoft replacing much of Windows functionality with Metro apps (many of which don't work properly), this doesn't answer the question. Baskerville Old Face may include this glyph, but it is at a different codepoint (read: the image is for a different character), and this is more of a comment about Edge's lack of features. Also note that Baskerville Old Face is bundled with many Microsoft products. – wizzwizz4 May 3 '17 at 17:58

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