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I am having a problem where my GPU would shut down at 65c while playing games and cpu stays at 50c during that period, rest all components doesn't heat either.. I have already replaced my psu via rma and got a brand new seasonic 520w 80 plus, replaced my ram, replaced my cpu heatsink , tried changing the thermal paste on gpu didn't help either.. the only component left to replace is motherboard and GPU but both components are out of warranty so I can only replace one of them, so I am not sure which is at fault here. I am assuming it's motherboard because I do have frequent freezes in bios and even in safe mode which makes me think problem is with Mobo, otherwise why would GPU shut down at 65 when limit is like 90.. any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Pc specs FX 8320 3.5ghz GTX 970 Asus Strix 4gb Mobo - Asus m5a97 r2.0 Ram - Corsair vengeance 4*2 dual memory Psu -Seasonic s1211 520w 80 plus bronze certified Cpu cooler - Hyper 212x Ssd - crucial ssd sata 3

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    Are you running the current firmware for the motherboard? A 500 W PSU is more than enough for your system. – Ramhound Mar 12 '20 at 9:24
  • Yes I am on the latest bios version..I even got my motherboard repaired from the shop, they replaced some IC on it and charged me 27 dollars for it but that didn't fix the issue – Gaurav Batra Mar 12 '20 at 17:37
  • My motherboard freezes in bios/safe mode etc, windows password screen and basically it freezes within every 5 mins of usage.. can a gpu cause pc to freeze? Or is this a motherboard issue and I should buy a new motherboard right away,, since this is not getting repaired? – Gaurav Batra Mar 13 '20 at 7:49
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According to Referred from thanks to evga website says

https://www.evga.com/support/faq/FAQdetails.aspx?faqid=57289

Generally, Graphics card temperatures typically range from 30°C to 40°C at idle and from 60°C to 85°C under load. Most high end video cards typically have a maximum temperature between 95°C-105°C, at which point the system will shut off to prevent damage.

According to Referred from thanks to softlay website says :

https://softlay.net/how-to/safe-normal-gpu-temp-gaming.html

The average GPU temperature for gaming should remain between 65 degree Celsius to 75 degree Celsius. As for Nvidia GPU temp they have an average temperature around 70 to 85 degree Celsius according to Fullmark graphics card test.

According to thanks to Photonboy answer in website tomshardware

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/laptop-gpu-overheating.2027304/

Reasons for overheating GPU:

1, Using of CPU and GPU is more than normally would.

  1. The cooling fan of desktop and CPU/GPU is defective slow or not working or Clogged fan or broken fan

  2. Heatpipe or other parts of cooler is not working or may be corrosion or damaged.

  3. Dust in CPU/GPU Fan heatsink or FAN .

  4. Thermal Paste may be dried

  5. Airflow getting blocked in Laptop.

  6. Power settings

  7. Overclocking of CPU /GPU or VGA or RAM

  8. Wrong GPU Drivers

  9. Overclocking

Solutions modified According to My knowledge and referred text from the solutions provided in various site links

thanks to KryssNova in tomshardware https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/laptop-gpu-overheating.2027304/

thanks to photonboy in tomshardware https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/laptop-gpu-overheating.2027304/

SOLUTIONS

  1. Clean the dust in CPU GPU RAM through blower or clean with isopropyl with 99.9 alchohol

  2. Remove heat sink Fans of CPU and GPU and put some thermal paste on the chip and processor

  3. Remove and Clean the heat sink of the CPU and GPU and clean it with blower and isopropyle

  4. Clean the Fans cooler pipes or cooling parts if any through air blower and if found dirty then use isopropyl

  5. Check CPU/GPU is overclocked in BIOS or any other softwares

  6. Check if CPU/GPU is not overused by any Games or any software in background while normal use and while playing games

  7. Find a large heat sink or larger fans for GPU if it can fit as per size (check cooler master or ARCTIC site they have many solutions)

https://www.pclaunches.com/best-gpu-cooler/

https://www.newegg.com/VGA-Cooling/SubCategory/ID-576

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Graphics-Card-Fans/zgbs/pc/3015421011

  1. get a Cabinet case or CPU cooling fans

  2. Check power option settings

    • check Power Options setting

    • If on High Performance

    • Power Options>Change Plan Settings>Change Advanced Power Settings>Processor Power Management check all the tabs,

      · Tab : Minimum Processor State set to "5%" on both dont run your CPU running at Max performance at all times without reason use when needed

      · Tab : System Cooling Policy

       set to "Active" on both, 
      
       dont run your CPU to run without cooling.
      

      · Tab : Maximum Processor State

       set to "100%" on both
      

      · click "Apply".

      · heat sink for CPU and GPU is probably connected together, it could be that the heat sums up together.

    • 3D settings of Geforce Control Panel (install Graphic card softwares), then you want to try changing Power Managment Mode to "Adaptive".

  3. VSYNC power heating options

        (1) Run FRAPS and the game
    
        (2) Turn off VSYNC
    
        (3) Tweak averaging at least 10% above the 
            target refresh (i.e. 66FPS)
    
        (4) Turn on VSYNC
    

hope my answer will help you if any of the option work do tell me in comment which one worked for you and if not fell free to ask more queries and if it worked do not forget to vote and accept my answer

  • Okay thanks for your answer.. I will try this and let you know, however most of things mentioned in article have already been done, but I will go through this once more, thank you for your help – Gaurav Batra Mar 13 '20 at 10:44
  • Thanks for your reply. I have already tried all these possible steps and even changing the thermal paste on my GPU doesn't help, my GPU still crashes once it reaches 65-67c and only way to stop GPU from reaching such temps is by increasing fan speed, however, this doesn't always work.. changing thermal paste on gpu didn't help and replacing psu and ram didn't help either.. I think it's the motherboard but I am not sure and I don't have a spare board with me, because my motherboard freezes even in bios at times – Gaurav Batra Mar 13 '20 at 14:21
  • @Gaurav Batra bro if your motherboard freezes in BIOS then try to clean motherboard and GPU with h ISP isopropyle after removing all heat sinks of north south bridges and even processor outside tray sometimes dust is hidden there and hangs boards – Androidquery Mar 13 '20 at 14:28
  • @Gaurav Batra secondly if u don't have motherboard and graphic card in spare then either check the graphic card in some friends motherboard or give motherboard and graphic card to some renowned service center or preparing guyz they have spare boards and cards to check.the problem and even they have diagnosis cards to test the board fault rest before giving to service center if you find dust is user chips then try proper cleaning chips with isopropyle with 99.9 alcohol it worked many time to me – Androidquery Mar 13 '20 at 14:33
  • Okay, thanks a lot for your help mate.. for now I have arranged a galax 1050ti and I will test that tomorrow in my pc to see if it solves freezing issue and if it doesn't solve the issue, then I am sure the motherboard is the problem, so I would replace the motherboard most probably because I don't know how to clean a board with propoyl alcohol , if you can give me some tips on how to remove bridge and clean board then that would be great.. however the people to whom I gave my motherboard to repair a month ago, I think they already did the cleaning – Gaurav Batra Mar 13 '20 at 18:04
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" A New answer In continuation with previous answer on discussion in comments and further updates information and after testing by Gaurav Updates ( the questioner)"

As update that other card is also hanging on same motherboard and latest update that your PC is working on increasing the speed of Fan and controlling the temperature below 60

Gaurav question why PC shutdown on below temprature of 60?

Gaurav Batra

The Motherboards or electronics circuits always restarts on heat in old times processors used to heat and boards used to hang or restarts on less temperatures and due to the same reasons many new motherboards now have sensors of temperature and they automatically starts of heating to protect the device from bursting burning.

There are many new Motherboards which are specially made for OVERCLOCKING and OVERHEATING and their heating temperature chips are configured and clubbed together to work on more particular heat level temperature . Secondly overclocked motherboards have special cooling pipe COOPER heatsink pipes or COOLING UNIT or WATER COOLING to keep the chips cool and temperature cool.

Secondly there are many reason sometime Power supplies SMPS less current (Power wattage) to particular device on detecting more temperature for device or chip. Some time some Processor or RAM or electronic components on PSU or GPU like Capacitor Transistors IC's gets heated or gets triggered on Heat as every electronic components have metals or coils and every component have limit of working on particular temperature .

In your case your motherboard Asus m5a97 is old and dont have overclocking and overheating protections and features and manufactured at the time of lower old graphics cards (512MB 1GB max of 2gB) and you are using advanced Graphic cards on a lower end motherboard and i dont think your motherboard supports OVERCLOCKING or overheating

Now solutions

As you want to purchase "10th gen comes out as I have saved enough money and I will use my GTX 970 with 10th gen Intel till the time 3060 comes and then I will upgrade to 3060 once it comes out" so i think before purchasing spending money on old "motherboard for my FX 8320" try following solutions for time being and go for full new upgrade with 10th Intel generation.

  1. some NVedia (Nvidia Inspector/ Geforce Experience) Asus or Gigbayte motherboard or Graphic cards have softwares or options in BIOS to increase the limit of Overheating you have to find that software and can try through that

  2. As you have increased GPU /CPU fan speed you can control cooling through software or increasing cooling through Fans or water cooling so the components get cooled when they heated at the earliest and your computer dont shutdown

  3. Also try to increase cooling of Your CPU processor fan and GPU processor fan and make your processor cool through water cooling

  4. Instead of msi afterburner change or Install Run Nvidia Inspector for GPU temperature and fan speed testing and configuring as your GPU is of NVidea

  5. As reading other links founded that Power Supply SMPS of PC should be of True power 600w to 1000w so that the GPU gets enough current power wattage while working and sometimes may stop GPU or other parts to heat less on getting proper wattage voltage and current

  6. Googled and founded and sharing with your some more links (for your knowledge and future reference) on the problems with many other people with GTX 970 GPU and other users experts suggested

According to Referred tomshardware website link thanks to user wildCard999 who Says:-

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/gtx-970-sytem-shut-down-while-gaming-at-80c.2608638/

Max Temp for the GTX 970 4gb is 98C, I don't think the GPU temp is the issue. What temp is your CPU while gaming? Another thought is maybe there's an issue with your power supply?I suppose you could use a program like GPU-Z and record the max draw of your components and see if its pushing your PSU too hard leading to the shutdowns.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications

According to Referred NVidea website link Thanks to Greybear user who says

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/discover/277310/gtx-970-shutting-down-at-65c/

Two things to try..... Download the 391.35 driver, same instructions as above, see if that changes the results. Second one is harder....Pull the card, take the card and driver| .REG files to another computer. Install and see if the Problem transfers. IF the problem transfers, then yes, the card is the problem, replace the card, then recheck the system. The GPU itself could be the issue and causing problems with the CPU.

read the Last reply STEPS carefully of Greybear the same post of configuring power supply and downloading and reading some power and CPU temperature overlclocking

When did this start? How long have you had this Setup?.....................

Download SPECCY. Install REBOOT

Download this 387.92 driver
Download DDU (get the 17.0.7.5 or NEWER)

Disable the Windows 10 Driver updating. download the DISABLE .REG files in Option 2 and 4Merge one of the DISABLE .REG files and REBOOT. Merge the other DISABLE .REG file and continue with the next step.

Run Nvidia Inspector Bottom right - Show Overclocks Fan SPEED control appears in the middle between the original DATA and the Overclocks

Download and install HWInfo64 Download and install 3DMark (3DMark is a long > Download)

other links to see for reference

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/4rvdew/gtx_970_video_card_solution_pc_instant_shutdown/

https://forums.evga.com/GTX970-FTW-Is-it-a-GPU-overheat-or-do-I-need-bigger-Power-Supply-m2330004.aspx

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/pc-with-gtx-970-shuts-down-when-playing-game.397302/

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=255907.0

https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/201147/gtx-970-running-at-80c-playing-arma3-on-singleplayer

GPU is overheating

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/gpu-overheating-need-solution.1300651/

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/overheating-gpus-what-is-the-best-solution.112163/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operating_temperature

If answer of any solution works and suits do tell me which one worked for you in comment and if not worked then feel free to ask for any further queries and if worked then dont forget to vote and accept the answer

  • Thank you for all the replies, but the thing is this same motherboard ran this 970 for 4 years with no issue and never shut down and even the power supply is of best quality of Seasonic and this same power supply also ran my PC perfectly for 4 years so why won't the same components be sufficient now? Also my motherboard might be old but I paid 8000 rupees for it back in 2015 and this mobo is not a low end one I guess and this motherboard is same board which ran perfectly with my 970 for 4 years, all problems started after a period of 4 years and nothing changed in PC. – Gaurav Batra Mar 19 '20 at 5:20
  • I am going to try the increasing temp limit for my gpu because I think that can solve the issue, but unfortunately my motherboard has no options to increase temp limit of gpu to avoid it from shutting down. Do you know of any software which I can use to increase temp limit of gpu? Thanks again. – Gaurav Batra Mar 19 '20 at 5:21
  • I was thinking to do water cooling on my 970 but are you use that my gpu is at fault and not the motherboard which can't handle the heat anymore because its old? because this same motherboard ran my 970 for 4 years at temps of 65-70c with no issues at all – Gaurav Batra Mar 19 '20 at 5:23
  • Please stop posting multiple answer to questions. You can edit the original answer if you have updates or more information. – DavidPostill Mar 20 '20 at 19:29
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" Posting a New answer In continuation with previous answer on discussions and updations and after checking and trying user is asking certain information in comments and further updates information and after testing by Gaurav Updates ( the questioner)"

Gaurav Batra

As per your first comments :- but the thing is this same motherboard ran this 970 for 4 years with no issue and never shut down and even the power supply is of best quality of Seasonic because this same motherboard ran my 970 for 4 years at temps of 65-70c with no issues at all

As you are told me that you are using motherboard and same graphic card with all same parts from last 4 years and it was working fine means not shutting down at a temprature of 65C to 70C and graphics card.

But previously commented "I have tried putting a new GTX 1050ti in my computer and I am still having the same problem." so i told you that may be motherboard have problem but there may be other problems factors reasons for shutting down also may be driver software or other parts heatings

  1. then as per idea my thoughts either your GPU or CPU or RAM or chips somewhere in motherboard or Graphic card or some thing is overheating by time or dust or carbon in parts...you should check or compare temperature through softwares listed below of all components (CPU RAM CHIPS GPU) previously and now and find which part is more heating now it may be shutting down due to GPU throttle limit or may be due to heat of some other parts

  2. The game you playing or any other software or any other Memory resident program (antivirus or any softwares) or any software to may be CONFLICTING restarting or shutting down the PC you should cross check system files malwares softwares AND CONFLICTS.

  3. Sometime system shutdown is due to HDD reading errors on particular sectors so u should scan defrag HDD and chkdsk also

  4. try to find new update GPU drivers or motherboard BIOs updates or GPU chips Updates any other update for chipset drivers updated may be they are corrupted or giving some problems

  5. Try to change Game lower down or GPU settings of Frame rate or resolutions or CPU RAM usage or any other system setting which may solve your problems

As per your second comments :- try the increasing temp limit for my gpu because I think that can solve the issue, but unfortunately my motherboard has no options to increase temp limit of gpu to avoid it from shutting down. Do you know of any software which I can use to increase temp limit of gpu?

Now my views:-

  1. I know you are using graphic card GPU GTX 970 chipset but you did not mentioned and told of which Company (MSI ASUS NVedia) or any other company of your graphics card. Kindly mention in question company of your devices then it will be easier to find and troubleshoot your problem .

  2. Find Default GPU The throttle temperature limit set of card of your specific Manufacturing company.

  3. As per my suggestions GPU throttle temperature limit is set to protect you GPU motherboard and CPU from being Damaged by overheating or burning its not advisable to increase those limits its better to make your GPU CPU cool by Fans Heat Sinks or increasing fan speeds or purchasing new big cabinet fans or CPU or GPU fans or water coiling. Still you can carefully try to increase the throttle limit by software but try to keep it low by Default and preferred throttle limit of the company

  4. I am below sharing below links of software's by various company without proper knowing about your Graphic car company and mother board company. Its advisable only use or You should try with the software of the manufacturing dont try 3rd party or softwares of other companies with your card they may force but may damage your card

According to Nvdeia website link says:-

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2752/~/nvidia-gpu-maximum-operating-temperature-and-overheating

NVIDIA GPUs are designed to operate reliably up to their maximum specified operating temperature. This maximum temperature varies by GPU. Refer to the nvidia.com product page for individual GPU specifications. If a GPU hits the maximum temperature, the driver will throttle down performance to attempt to bring temperature back underneath the maximum specification. If the GPU temperature continues to increase despite the performance throttling, the GPU will shutdown the system to prevent damage to the graphics card. Performance utilities such as EVGA Precision or GPU-Z can be used to monitor temperature of NVIDIA GPUs. If a GPU is hitting the maximum temperature, improved system cooling via an added system fan in the PC can help to reduce temperatures.

3rd party Overclocking tools (not ADVISABLE)

if you overclock then be sure to have WATER COOLING AND COOLERS OF FOR YOUR CPU GPUS RAMS

https://www.avast.com/c-how-to-overclock-gpu

EVGA Precision X1.

https://www.evga.com/precisionx1/

Introducing EVGA Precision X1. With a brand new layout, completely new codebase, new features and more, the new EVGA Precision X1 software is faster, easier and better than ever. When paired with an NVIDIA Turing graphics card, the new EVGA Precision X1 will unleash its full potential with a built in overclock scanner, adjustable frequency curve and RGB LED control.

MSI AFTERBURNER

https://www.msi.com/page/afterburner

The world’s most recognized and widely used graphics card overclocking utility which gives you full control of your graphics cards. It provides an incredibly detailed overview of your hardware and comes with some additional features such as customizing fan profiles, benchmarking and video recording. MSI Afterburner is available completely free of charge and can be used with graphics cards from all brands.

Download ASUS GPUTweak II

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/removal-of-gpu-thermal-limit.830552/

https://www.asus.com/us/site/graphics-cards/gpu-tweak-ii/

https://www.asus.com/event/vga/gpu-tweak-ii/

https://www.asus.com/supportonly/GPUTweak%20II/HelpDesk_Knowledge/

ASUS GPU Tweak II provides an intuitive interface to access serious functionalities, all right at your fingertips. And the best part is, you can access all that on-the-fly, even in-game ─ all with one click. Enjoy your music and videos by clicking Silent Mode Game for hours on with Gaming Mode as the default setting in ASUS graphics cards Bench and play the most demanding games by clicking OC Mode to unlock maximum performance Stream and record your gameplay on-the-fly with XSplit Gamecaster

GEFORCE® EXPERIENCE™

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/geforce-experience/

Capture and share videos, screenshots, and livestreams with friends. Keep your drivers up to date and optimize your game settings. GeForce Experience™ lets you do it all, making it the super essential companion to your GeForce® graphics card.

OPTIMIZE YOUR GAME SETTINGS GeForce Experience takes the hassle out of PC gaming by configuring your game’s graphics settings for you. Don’t know what texture filtering level to set in Overwatch? Not to worry. NVIDIA taps into the power of the NVIDIA cloud data center to test thousands of PC hardware configurations and find the best balance of performance and image quality. Then it automatically configures personalized graphics settings based on your PC’s GPU, CPU, and display.

NVIDIA Inspector

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-inspector/

https://github.com/Orbmu2k/nvidiaProfileInspector/releases

NVIDIA Inspector is a utility to read all GPU relevant data from the NVIDIA driver. ... Also included is monitoring of GPU parameters like clocks, temperature and fan speed. Multi Display Power Saver lets you reduce power consumption of the NVIDIA card by picking a lower power-state for multi-display

NVIDIA Inspector is a utility to read all GPU relevant data from the NVIDIA driver. It also supports overclocking and changing driver settings, for example to enable SLI for unsupported games.

Also included is monitoring of GPU parameters like clocks, temperature and fan speed.

Multi Display Power Saver lets you reduce power consumption of the NVIDIA card by picking a lower power-state for multi-display configurations.

if any of my answer works and suits your problem then do tell me in comments for my knowledge and research which one worked for you and if not then feel free to ask further clarification queries regarding the answer in comments . If worked then dont forget to vote for my answers and accept the answer.

  • Thank you again for all the replies but I have already tried everything that is mentioned in this post. The problem that I was having with 1050ti was the freezing issue and that was irrelevant of temperatures, the pc would just freeze in bios or on windows password screen within 10 minutes of starting the computer. However, the freezing issue with my pc is now solved and i have no idea how it got solved but I am no longer having freezes from past 1 week. The problem is now only with gpu temps which leads gpu to shut down at 65-67c while gaming but increasing fan speed solves the issue – Gaurav Batra Mar 20 '20 at 19:44
  • Games can be now played for 7 hours continuously if I keep my fan speed of gpu to 85 percent because that keeps gpu under 60c so I no longer get shutdown, its just that I want to fix this problem permanently because from 4 years my Asus strix 970 was running on default fan speed and it never shut down earlier. For now I can use gpu at high fan speed so I am happy about it but I am getting a little worried because summer is approaching and in India its very hot during summer, if temps the same it is right now then cool otherwise I can have serious problems. – Gaurav Batra Mar 20 '20 at 19:46
  • Btw my GPU is Asus Strix Gtx 970 OC edition. – Gaurav Batra Mar 20 '20 at 19:46
  • @GauravBatra good your freezing stopped and GPU is working on increasing Fan speed...for summer to temp wait and watch and if prob arises then use water cooling and enjoy gaming in summer also with it..... – Androidquery Mar 21 '20 at 2:05
  • Okay, thanks a lot for your help. I will do what you say and if I face more problems in summer, then I will try a new gpu once and see if even that crashes at 65-70c or not and that would confirm if my gpu is bad or something else. – Gaurav Batra Mar 21 '20 at 6:00
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In my experience you did well to change the psu, however, chances are you choose a model too low for your needs. If you're still in the return period I'd try a 700w + psu. As the psy ramps up it starts to draw more power. Overheating is always a suspect but as it is not the case here my next guess would be your psu.

  • He has a more than sufficient power supply. Using NewEgg's calculator, his specs only reach ~400W. – NiallUK Mar 12 '20 at 9:26
  • I was using the same power supply for 4 years with same specs and never had this issue, still out of curiosity I decided to change the psu and got a new one as replacement and that didn't solve the issue, which means problem lies somewhere else – Gaurav Batra Mar 12 '20 at 19:59

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