When assigning a user's secondary group list using:

# usermod -G <grouplist> <user>

is it possible to force this group assignment to take effect without logging out all running sessions?

This would be very useful in the situation where a Screen session exists with many running shells, as the entire session essentially needs to be destroyed to make the group assignment take effect.

I think I can change the user's primary group in a running shell using the newgrp command - is there some alternative that would work for secondary groups?

Ideally, I'd want something that would take effect in each shell without being run manually in every one, but failing that, maybe some way of forcing Screen to execute the same command in each.

  • I know that at least for some window / session managers it's possible to do this such that the session picks up the new group and it's available to any new processes started from the menus, panel buttons or whatever. I came here just now looking to find that again, so can't say just now how to do it, and it's probably specific to the window manager. – mc0e Nov 9 '15 at 14:27

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Horribly hacky, but you could use two layers of newgrp to achieve this for a particular group:

id -g

...will give you the current primary group ID. We'll call this orig_group for the purposes of this example. Then:

newgrp <new group name>

...will switch you to that group as the primary and add it to the list of groups returned by groups or id -G. Now, a further:

newgrp <orig_group>

...will get you a shell in which you can see the new group and the primary is the original one.

This is horrible and will only get you one group added at a time, but it has helped me out a couple of times to get groups added without logging out/in my whole X session (e.g. to get fuse added as a group to a user so that sshfs will work).

Edit : This doesn't require you to type your password either, which su will.

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    Nice trick, I like it – Simon Oct 10 '11 at 19:40
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    On Fedora I had to do newgrp $USER instead of newgrp <orig_group>. That means I didn't have to find my original primary group ID, so it's even easier than this solution. – Richard Turner Jan 3 '14 at 17:08
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    I found it was sufficient to do newgrp <new group name>. This was Ubuntu 14.04 – Edward Falk Mar 18 '16 at 21:42
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    @EdwardFalk right, but you don't (might not) want to leave that group as your primary... – mimoralea May 26 '16 at 22:08
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    Note that each newgrp creates a new shell, so when you need to fully exit from your session you need to do "exit exit exit" to get all the way out (: – jwd Jan 4 '17 at 17:45

From inside a shell, you can issue the following command

su - $USER

id will now list the new group:

id
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    I think this the best approach in many cases, but the original poster did want to update multiple shells within a screen session. This solution would have be be done from each shell. – Adrian Ratnapala Dec 13 '11 at 8:57
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    Nice trick, works great! – genpfault Apr 3 '12 at 4:24
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    The original solution would also only fix a single shell session in screen. I just tested that. The reason this solution works is because you are spawning a complete new session rather than inheriting from the original environment. – Dror Feb 6 '14 at 5:24
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    This really should be the accepted answer. Nice trick, thanks! – dotancohen Nov 1 '15 at 20:28
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    This requires you to type a password though, which might be awkward/unwanted if you are trying to do it in lots of sessions. – Legooolas Apr 15 '16 at 13:20

This nifty trick from this link works great!

exec su -l $USER

I figured I'd post it here as every time I forget how to do this, this is the first link that come up in google.

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    +1 for not putting the user in a subshell; you can logout/exit as usual with this. Also, if NOPASSWD: is set in /etc/sudoers, you can instead use exec sudo su -l $USER to avoid being prompted for password. – Ivan X Aug 9 '14 at 15:06
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    Be advised: you'll be asked for a sudo password. If you get it wrong, your terminal will close. – Tyler Collier Feb 26 '15 at 18:57
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    @TylerCollier Ivan did mention NOPASSWD: – pepoluan Dec 16 '16 at 15:27

1. Getting a shell with the new group without logging out and in again

If you're only adding one group, I used the following:

exec sg <new group name> newgrp `id -gn`

This is a variation on Legooolas's two-layer newgrp trick, but it is in one line and doesn't require you to manually enter your primary group.

sg is newgrp but accepting a command to execute with the new group ID. The exec means that the new shell replaces the existing shell, so you don't need to "logout" twice.

Unlike using su, you don't need to type in your password. It also doesn't refresh your environment (other than adding the group), so you retain your current working directory etc.

2. Executing the command in all Screen windows in a session

The at command in Screen runs a command in whatever windows you specify (note this is a Screen command, not a shell command).

You can use the following command to send the command to all an existing Screen sessions:

screen -S <session_name> -X at \# stuff "exec sg <new_group_name> newgrp \`id -gn\`^M"

Note the need to escape the backticks to get id to run in the Screen session, and the ^M to get Screen to hit 'enter' at the end of your command.

Note also that screen's stuff command simply types the command text on your behalf. Therefore something strange may happen if one of the screen windows has a half-written command at a command prompt or is running an application other than a shell (e.g. emacs, top). If this is an issue, I have some ideas:

  • To get rid of any half-written command, you can add "^C" to the start of the command.
  • To avoid running the command in an emacs window, etc, you could ask `at' to filter on window title etc (in the example above, I use "#", which matches all windows, but you can filter by window title, user, etc).

To run the command in a specific window (identified by window number), use the following:

screen -S <session_name> -p 0 -X stuff "exec sg <new_group_name> newgrp \`id -gn\`^M"
  • Awesome one liner, that does not seem to have other side-effects, thanks ! – Cyril Duchon-Doris Mar 28 at 14:56

You can do this.

Add as many groups as you want using usermod -G. Then, as the user with a running session, run newgrp - with just the '-' argument.

This reinitializes the group id to the default, but it will also set the secondary groups as well. You can verify this by running groups from the current session, before and after the usermod and the newgrp.

This has to be run from each open session - I don't know much about screen. However, if it's possible to iterate over all open sessions and run newgrp, you should be good. You won't have to worry about knowing the groups or the group IDs.

Best of luck to you.

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    tried on an xterm within an X session but it did not work – dwery Jul 10 '12 at 19:27
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    tried in on a session in tmux and it did not work there either – Michael Feb 12 '13 at 3:32
  • Tried on Amazon linux 2, it did not work – Cyril Duchon-Doris Mar 28 at 14:53
  • newgrp - starts a new shell process – Piotr Findeisen Apr 24 at 13:05

Groups are usually enumerated at login, there is no way I know of to force it to re-do group enumeration without logging out and back in again.

Many answers voted up here seem to use a workaround that invokes a new shell with fresh environment (same as logging in again). the parent shell and all other continuously running programs will generally not receive the new group membership until being re-invoked from a fresh shell usually after clean logout and login.

  • Truthfully, I'm pretty sure that this isn't true - I'd found a way to do it before on a Linux box. However, for the life of me, I cannot remember what the command was. If I find it, I'll post it. Edit: Just found it, I'm posting it as an answer. – lunchmeat317 Jan 30 '12 at 16:11

Using newgrp command solved problem for me:

newgrp <GroupName>

This blog post has detailed explanation.

To summarize:

exec newgrp <newlyaddedgroupname1>
exec newgrp <newlyaddedgroupname2>
...
exec newgrp -

Using 'exec' means replace the existing shell with the new shell started by the newgrp command (so exiting from the new shell logs you out).

The final newgrp - is needed to restore your normal primary group, so files you later create will have that as their group owner.

Note: The original poster's question was how to make newly-added groups visible in existing processes. The gpasswd and usermod commands don't affect existing processes; newly-added (or deleted!) groups appear in (disappear from) your account, i.e. in the /etc/group and /etc/gshadow files, but permissions for existing processes aren't changed. To remove permissions you have to kill any running processes; newgrp - will not re-read /etc/group and reset the group list; instead, it seems to just use the groups previously associated with the process.

  • By the way, exec su - <username> can be used to get a new login shell with groups set, but that won't work in scripts because a new shell will read commands from the terminal. You could use su -c "command ..." <myusername> to restart your script, but the resulting process has no controlling terminal and so an error will occur if a screen editor or other interactive command is attempted. – jimav Feb 10 '17 at 23:30
  • Why was this downvoted? Can someone explain what's bad about it, because it was what occurred to me and I think I like it best? – jasonmp85 Mar 8 '17 at 0:02
  • Gah, I voted it up before testing. newgrp - does not replace the "primary group". Patrick Conheady's answer is the best one here, as it neither forks nor changes the primary group. – jasonmp85 Mar 8 '17 at 0:30

I had similar issue but also for not logged-in users. Restart of nscd didn't help, but executing this command did: nscd -i group. That should instruct nscd (caching daemon) to reload the groups file.

This does the trick if you have sudo and it can save you from entering your password one more time in some cases:

sudo su $USER

A bit late to the party, gpasswd should do the job, without creating a new session:

$ gpasswd -a user groupname

You can modify single group at a time, though you can set all its members:

$ gpasswd -M user1,user2 groupname
  • This does not change the current shell. – kavadias Jul 20 '17 at 13:20
  • @kavadias It's not supposed to change the shell. Just adds user to group without necessity of logout and new login. – Tombart Jul 20 '17 at 13:45
  • I fail to see how that is useful, when running and newly started processes, in the Screen session, won't be able to see the groups' change. – kavadias Jul 20 '17 at 16:22

I couldn't get the newgrp command to work. I'm not sure if this depends on /etc/sudoers, but I normally have to type my password for sudo, and this worked without requiring my password:

[leo60228@leonix:~]$ groups
users wheel

[leo60228@leonix:~]$ sudo echo hi
[sudo] password for leo60228:
hi

[leo60228@leonix:~]$ sudo -k # reset sudo timeout

[leo60228@leonix:~]$ exec sudo -i -u $(whoami) # no password necessary

[leo60228@leonix:~]$ groups
users wheel docker

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